Blender Developers Meeting Notes

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code2.49… done. Next action item: 2.5!

2.5 progress
Hi all,

With 2.49b out, and the Google projects wrapped up, we spent most of the time on the 2.5 topic.

  • Proposal: move over 2.5 branch to trunk next sunday, Martin coordinates it.
  • Benoit wants to merge his new IK controller work, wil be done in close cooperation with Martin to ensure things go fine.
  • Blender GE player has stub now… to map bad level calls in Blender kernel and RNA especially. Urgent note to not think this is a good solution… at least the stub code is in the player now, and not in Blender itself!
  • Roadmap proposal… Ton still tries to get the big picture, to make a roadmap for the 2.5x series. All devs are invited to make sure they communicate their own roadmaps to this list and/or in wiki a.s.a.p.
  • There will be a 2.5x bug tracker back within a few days. The team will maintain a clear todo list in the wiki, with a good overview of the features you cannot report on yet, or issues that are on the list to fix already.
  • Nathan is continuing with his Redmine experiment: an alternative system for tracking svn commits and bug reports.
  • Sofar it looks promising, he’ll report back to us with a final proposal later.
  • Sound: in order to sync Blender playback with playing sound a different clock-timer approach has to be coded… Ton will coordinate with Peter and Joerg.
  • We have to check best way of adding Open Collada lib in Blender. The library itself seems to be as large as Blender itself now. Adds about 10 MB to download size… Resulting Blender will be 10-12MB in size.

-Ton-

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    • http://freshsurge.com RH2

      yeah! yea! ya!
      awesome :)

    • vykelt

      Thanks for the steady flow of updates. I’m love that you’re trying to keep everyone in the loop about everything leading up to 2.5 and Durian. It’s keeping us excited about what’s to come for Blender. Cheers

    • MmAaXx

      I think so many people love Ton and his team!

      thankyou guys!

    • Aroidzap

      Good work

    • an ancient egg

      integrate Bmesh please. I think the majority of the blender users would appreciate if that was possible, even if just the dissolve and clean subdivisions.

    • http://www.dustyghost.com dusty

      ADD THE 10MB!!! Collada support is worth it! :)

      But seriously, for those with slower internet connections perhaps a separate patch adding collada support would be fairer.

      EDIT:
      Sorry!! Forgot to add, WELL DONE!!! you guys work so hard for all of us!

    • http://jesterking.myopenid.com/ Nathan Letwory

      There’s been a slight miscommunication. I said during the meeting that currently the resulting blender executable is between 10 and 12 MB in size. I didn’t say it *adds* that in size.

    • Sago

      @an ancient egg, integration of Bmesh will not and should not happen if many other tools aren’t working yet with it. It’s not that Bmesh itself needs to be fully functional, but it’s the rest of Blender

    • an ancient egg

      ah…OK then. So, does that mean that until 2.5 is completely coded, Bmesh can’t be safely integrated? it’s just that the dissolve and clean subdivision would be amazing and great assets to the program.

    • Cheerios

      @Nathan: Thank Lucifer’s gumdrops! I thought that blender was going to shoot up to 20MB or something!

      The new sound sync work is exciting too.

      I’ve been making some lovely sky-boxes with blender2.5 at the moment. It’s extremely easy now with volumetrics and atmosphere rendering. Hint: make hollow sphere, shrink vertically and use as volume with camera inside it.

      (Edit)
      Example:
      http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5506/47807300.png

    • txrx

      We’re using Redmine here, it’s quite good for tracking issues and progress. nice SVN module as well.

    • rgdfhdfhdryerztetz

      Please do include collada support.
      Don’t create a seperate package.
      Collada is a really strong feature to have.
      Many products support or intend to support or are coding to support collada. It’s time to replace the old 3ds format with something better.

    • txrx

      Collada is much sought after for studios who don’t want to be locked into the FBX format, please do keep it in. I’m sure the world can handle another couple of mb on it’s smallest full cg studio app! :D

    • http://www.DreadKnight666.com Dread Knight

      I’m pretty sure bmesh won’t be ready in time for 2.5 but it’s all good anyway.

    • http://home.deds.nl/~mp/ ysvry

      Keep collada in 12 mb isnt big I used to download that allot of times on my 14k4 telephone modem so its no problem for slow connections either. What you could do is chop the file up in rars for the 3th world unstable connections.

    • BlendNmix

      For the sound: Blender-Jack works already great.

    • Afief

      BMesh should be a milestone for 2.5. If BMesh isn’t integrated in 2.5 the result will be that the devs will code new features on top of the old code which BMesh will have to recode again.

      I think BMesh is worth doing something like “okay guys, we’re integrating BMesh now, if you code doesn’t work with it, fix it!”