OpenArtist is a new Linux distribution. It's based on Ubuntu but completely tricked out on graphics - and Blender software.
Cellstorm wrote:
hello there, I want to announce openArtist, a linux distribution for Artists.
It is based on ubuntu Hardy (but updated to jaunty in many aspects), features nearly everything available in the free software world. Categories are 2D, 3D, Audio, Video, VJ, Hardware interfacing, Collaboration.
As you will mostly be interested in the 3D stuff, I'll start with this.
Massive blender focus
- 5 versions of blender (2.49, 2.5 with automatic download script of graphicall daily build, 2.41, 2.45, publisher 2.2.5 for compatibility reasons and fun :-)
- integration into nautilus (own blender mimetype, open with 2.41, 2.45, control movies with blender:anim on rightclick), hidden blender folder in home directory for fast access to scripts folders of all versions and to sequence and texture plugins)
- collaborative blender scripts folder (symlinked into dropbox, drop a script there and all others will get it, too). many scripts installed (focus mainly on renderers integration until now, all render-related scripts appear in render menu now)
- renderers preinstalled for use with blender: yafray, yafaray, kerkythea, indigo (these two via download script, as they cannot be redistributed), aqusis, pixie, nvidia gelato, luxrender (beta and stable), sunflow, pantograph. also, freestyle standalone and helios distributed renderer are available. which brings me to the next point:
- distributed rendering category: helios (distributed rendering with sunflow), drqueue (packed in custom scripts and with help to be user friendly), yadra, networkrender, farmerjoe. Also all online-tools which allow renderfarming with blender are there, with test accounts: Pgrade Grid portal, HGblender ranch, burp, open rendering environment, BOINC, then the commercial ones: greenButton, respower, pouwa client, deadline renderfarm.
- blender video sequence editor and composite editor launcher in VID cateory, with test project and little intro texts.
Other interesting things
- 3D programs: ayam, moonlight, wings3d, k-3d, topmod modeller, equinox, gsculpt, kpovmodeller. Makehuman is there, once with the old version, and MHPhoenix, and a script to automatically download and compile the latest version. there is also Sharpconstruct (standalone scuplter) and structuresynth (where you can code 3D objects)
- texture tools: Mapzone (via wine and a script for download), semicuro, cellule (for procedural textures)
- shaderman tools: sler, shaderman (via wine) and cutter
- plant generators: arbaro, Ivy, ngplant, and apparently, tree form curves.
- g3dviewer: previews all major 3d formats
- bvhplay: player for bvh motioncapture files.
Useful things beyond 3D
- 2D: gimp is heavily pimped with all majpur plugins and scripts actually, there are 3 versions of gimp. one is special-pimped for use with graphics tablets: Gimp paint studio.
- more graphics tablets apps: mypaint, gogh, drawpile, alchemy, qaquarelle, and pencil.
- djv imaging for image sequce playing and processing.
- cinepaint is there. with full color management built in.
Which brings me to
- colour mangement: all relevant tools for linux are there (lcms argyl, lprof, oryanos, dispcal), but you will also find tools like a print plugin in gimp, which accepts coulor profiles of printers, or the CMYK plugin for gimp.
- There's also 2Danimation, but this goes out of scope.
- Hardware interfacing: controls for wacom graphics tablet, wiimote, and reactivision
- special kernels: there is a highram kernel available, which could be neat for renderings with more than 3GB ram. Yes you can use more the 3GB ram with a 32bit system. this kernel has to be installed seperately, but there is an install script on the desktop
Whats lastly worth to mention is that there is help on board, by hovering over the launchers, or in the mindmap (actually it's a network of mindmaps), where I tried to collect every relevant knowledge of a software, up to youtube videos.
For blender, there is a deep mindmap which covers nearly everything (though abit outdated), previously called the blendermindmap. (actually, you can reach it also via beam.to/blendermaindmap)
There is also a map called ressources where you can find models, textures, mocapdata, sounds, etc.
And best of all - its free and online. The help (which is the hompage, too for now) And the os. go to www.openartisthq.org for download, screenshots.
greets, cellstorm.
88 Comments
Quite cool :)
Cellstorm - I have no doubt of what OS to choose:)
Nice, checking it up... you could surelly do something about the website it ain't very intuitive, and some links won't work (like audio)
Wow...that sounds like its the distro for me (at least for Blender). Thanks for posting.
This distro saves about 2 month of installation & configuration work for an average sys-admin
(not to mention normal users troubles for setting up a collection like this)!
And you did not mention the mouse gestures, which are already there for almost every application!
Amazing work, please go on!
Cellstorm knows his business.
For those of you who MUST try this RIGHT NOW and dont have a dedicated box for it, visit Sun and their fabulous, award-winning VirtualBox..
Performance is great and allows you to host any OS or dystro on nearly any other
http://www.virtualbox.org/
WOW Starts here, not there, mwahahaha !
It's Ubuntu, not Ubunto (very beginning).
Not only is everything you can dream of already installed and configured, but this distro shows it real strength in an very important but often overlloked area: superb documentation!
Keep on the great work.
I'm wondering how this compares to UbuntuStudo (now Canonical-approved) Linux multimedia studio distribution based on Ubuntu.
@mooser: updated, thanks
YEAH!!!! This is totally awesome news!!!!
What a GREAT idea!!!!!!!!!!
Strange to see a flash site for a Linux distro...but it looks good...Is a .torrent available?
thanks
Does this have ACTUAL WORKING DRIVERS for Wacom tablets? Intous3 especially.
Well since their site doesn't like me, does anyone happen to know since they advertise their distro with audio uses in mind, does that mean they have taken the time to properly install and manage realtime permissions for audio users? Otherwise its use for that is VERY limited.
Seablade
Clicks links. A huge clip-to-play-flash-movie pops-up (using Swfdec). Clicks the movie so it starts, Iceweasel freezes for 15 sec. A god-awful "artsy" page is displayed, non of the buttons seem to work properly. Can't even download the disk image.
Why a GNU/Linux distro would call itself "open" when you can even download it without using proprietary software. That's bullshit.
Thanks guy;
A torrent link maybe be better solution for downloads: auto-resume,site server unload etc
5 versions of Blender for "compatibility reasons and fun". I can imagine all the fun writing pyscripts and syncing the 5 different scripts folders. And what compatibility reasons...
UbuntuStudio seems a bit cleaner and more thought out to me, if you want a preconfigured creation oriented distro, otherwise I'll stick to Fedora, thx.
I've been using openArtist for 2 days now, and it's awesome.
Usually it takes me a week to set up a new distro, this one took a few hours.
@Dusty: I have an Intuos3 and it's working perfectly with all aps.
I know that.
A replacement is on the way.
But you but have to know that the homepage
is also the help of openArtist, which anyone can edit.
So the clue is -if you edit the help, and save it, you will change the
contents of the homepage, too.
And everyone that has openArtist running,
will get these changes, too.
so here is the direct download for those having problems.
http://cellstorm.brainity.com/openArtist/openArtist.iso
screenshots:
http://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/331020/1/openArtist?h=49f07b
forum:
http://openartist.lefora.com/forum/
irc:
irc://irc.freenode.net/openartist
blenderartist thread:
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=159065
> realtime permissions for audio users?
I did that, yes.
and yeah, torrent will be comming, soon.
Sounds Promising.
Just a pitty that the download-link doesn't seem to work.
Can it use FX5800? no joke, I am serious. I have a FX5800 and have a tesla in the post. for full cuba.
I literally want to let rip on blender. If anyone can suggest a distro which can use that power fully,let me know as I want to go nuts on power in Linux and blender in open GL.
It is time blender went where other programs have access and left them in the dust.
Lots of love, the mad nemesis with a big ass:)
It would be great if there coluld be something for architects as well. On astistic side everything looks neat but if you want to swich completely to linux as an architect, there is no good choice from open source and commercial do not offer also anything for linux...
No gnome-globalmenu? Peh.
Perhaps the Blender Foundation should think about using this for Durian. It says on their site (about>software section) they haven't chosen a distro yet. Anyways, its just an interesting thought -- the important part of the project is the blender and the movie, not the particular os used in the creation process.
Cool distro !!!
That's amazing.
GULP! O_O
I thought I was just plainly dreaming. This is too good to be true, my oh my. I'll go download it right now.
Is this a live CD version?
P.S.
Ok, the website doesn't look too inviting, you gotta work more on that.
I wonder why they choose versions 2.45 and 2.41, I think that's rather weird. With 2.49 we have compatibility with both AND lots of new cool features.
This is very, uh, interesting. Ubuntu already has an entire distribution for artists called Ubuntu Studio ( http://ubuntustudio.org/ ), so I'm not real sure what all the hype is about. Not only that, but the marketing team needs to clunk some heads together and figure out something for their website. An operating system designed for "artists" with a terrible website isn't really an attractive feature. The HTML version is poorly designed and the Flash version is done using FreeMind (Mind-mapping software). Their logo also looks like something from Predator. So unless there's something special openArtists provides that Ubuntu Studio doesn't already, my Linux boxes will continue to run Ubuntu Studio.
@BrianH its designed with Blender usuers in mind...it includes the renderes, scripts etc. Ubuntu Studio just gives you a vanilla version of Blender. From what I've seen with Ubuntu studio is that its aimed more at Audio Pros than 3d/2d artistis.
PS: this is just my own observations I'm not a pro ;)
I think you need to think about 64-bit. I have an 8GB quad core, and need access to all 8GB. I use the 64-bit version of Blender on Ubuntu Intrepid. Also, I've read where Big Buck Bunny needs 8GB to render. Ubuntu Ultimate Edition offers 32 and 64 bit versions. Maybe you should have a chat with them.
The 'highram kernel available' description - what is it and what are it's limitations? After reading that Big Buck Bunny needed 8GB to render, I assumed they were running a 64-bit OS and 64-bit Blender, but maybe not?
Ubuntu Ultimate Edition offers a torrent link as the first option - I'm guessing that's the way to go, also.
Good luck!
It sounds awesome. I agree though that It NEEDS a better site. Also, where can I find a good mirror or torrent?
I need too a torrent :D
Seriously, if any distro was in sore need of a torrent, it would be this one. Any blender users with the ISO feel like putting one up? We'd all appreciate it ;)
Okay, now im sitting here with my vista laptop, and thinking about trying this out. So I have a (noob) question for ubuntu-users out there:
Can this OS run .dll files and those things that is needed to run most games/softwares available for windows?
Thanks.
Well, you can run SOME of the Windows stuff by using Wine on Linux... you can check this site for Wine's compatibility database: http://appdb.winehq.org/
Looks really interesting !
Any chance to see keyboard shortcuts for layers working ? That's the only reason I still have a Windows copy to work with Blender.
@Lasphere:
1. All support for running Windows-based applications natively on Linux is handled through Wine. Go to http://www.winehq.org to check out how well your particular windows/games software will run on Linux.
2. If it turns out there's some software you can not do without, consider running Vista in http://www.virtualbox.no on Linux.
3. If Virtualbox doesn't provide the desired speed, consult http://alternativeto.net/ to see if there are alternative applications to try out.
Hope it helps :)
Ubuntu blows. He should have made it around Debian, then you can at least have control of your upgrades and installations. Ubuntu is utterly annoying.
Alas, neither the download link nor the PayPal Donation link do respond. Anyone there with more luck for the time being ? :( ....
Thanks guys! I will look into it. :)
Awesome work !
Is it only 32-bit or do you also have a 64-bit version ? (I see only one .iso file in your website).
It's a shame that it's based on older release of Ubuntu but considering the fact that Ubuntu hardy is LTS I can dig it.
I wonder about all other packages (like open office, firefox) are they outdated or current ?
Ton : what do you think about this distro ? make it official for Durian project ? ;)
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the website is awful.
I know that.
A replacement is on the way.
But you but have to know that by now, the homepage
is also the internal help system of openArtist, which anyone can edit when using the distro.
So the clue is -if you edit the help, and save it, you will change the
contents of the homepage, too.
And all other users of the distro will get that changed copy on the fly - even if you use it just as livecd.
The flash version is pretty functional.
also consider that this is a one-man-show by now.
mirrors are on the way. a torrent, too.
Yeah site is a bit of a headache, but hey, it's functional for it's purpose.
I for one am cheering you on!
An whole system dedicated to Blender and similar apps is no bad thing!
10/10 from me!
switched to new download server.
here is the new server direct download for those having problems.
http://78.46.66.107/openArtist.iso
and, btw:
blenderartist thread:
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=159065
screenshots:
http://www.getdropbox.com/gallery/331020/1/openArtist?h=49f07b
forum:
http://openartist.lefora.com/forum/
irc:
irc://irc.freenode.net/openartist
switched to new download server.
here is the new server direct download for those having problems.
http://78.46.66.107/openArtist.iso
and, btw:
blenderartist thread:
http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=159065
I can't believe that Blender users are dissapointed of a site's UI.
I thought that once you learn the Blender UI, nothing gonna stop you to understand anything :)
Cool, but put it here too:
http://distrowatch.com
>distrowatch.com
yes, distrowatch is next task...
> And what compatibility reasons
well, some old scripts that do not run in new blender versions.. latest stable blender included is 2.49, 2.49a will be available today through package manager.
>highram kernel - what is it and what are it's limitations?
It is an ubuntu intrepid kernel with pae activated. Thats a kernel flag, which allows a 32bit
kernel to go beyond 3 gigabyte. From my last investigations, 64bit programs can run a bit faster than 32bit ones, despite the overhead the 64bit architecture brings with. But they also use more ram for running.
> keyboard shortcuts for layers
will try. you can actually run your beloved windows blender thorugh wine.
>He should have made it around Debian
that would have been too much work for one person
we need a torrent ... please :)
Both openArtist and UbuntuStudio are the wrong solution. We need less Linux Distributions not more. Why do I need a complete Distribution just for doing art. I'd like to use my Ubuntu and I use it for more then just Blender. Please bring your changes to the main Distributions. Or bring up an Ubuntu PPA:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
That's better for all. The users don't need to install a new System and the creators of openArtist have less work.
> will try. you can actually run your beloved windows blender thorugh wine.
Thanks for answering. About wine, I will give it another try.
@Supertobi : +1 !!!
Can it come with E17 as default manager?
I really like shiny stuff that is not resource intensive. And when this is for artists, artists has a right to have something shiny also :D I am not yet a Linux user but I intend to become one, yet i am bounded to some software that doesn't run well on Wine and i use those on daily basis. But if this distro has many alternative tools installed already I might adjust my self for alternatives, but I would really love to have an option to have e17 there, I would compile it my self if i knew how...
anyway, very interesting version of Linux ;)
Can I install kde4.2.4 on it? That would be awsome. Gnome is not bad, but I realy love kde!
:)
I heard about this distro awhile back. I already have ubuntu studio running and set up so unlikely to switch now. When the time comes to switch or do a fresh install I will check it out though.
Wow, I didn't know about all those 2d painting apps! Cool stuff.
The distro looks nice, too. :P
Looks very interesting, thanks! I am looking for a new distro since I am missing true out of the box/working sound in Ubuntu due to all sorts of PulseAudio and other problems and also since Ubuntu unfortunately does not really support external FireWire discs as well as FireWire in general (permissions nightmare when copying media or when you want to digitise media you need to open the Terminal and type cryptic commands first etc).
Not sure if openArtist solves these problems at this moment, but maybe this distro one day can have sound support for multimedia that "just works": without the need to install a "real time kernel" for MIDI, true FireWire support (for external drives and digitising!) and everything configured in such a way that you will never have to (but always can if you wish...) open the Terminal again. Artists would love that...!
Ubuntu is about 80% there, but it does not look to me that there will be a "creative pro version" that covers the last 20% any time soon. Ubuntustudio does not seem to be the solution for me, as far as I know it also comes with PulseAudio and I am currently back to 8.04 with PulseAudio disabled due to (Blender) audio problems that I had with 9.04.
Pretty funny, there is no video NLE listed here.
a torrent link was posted on blendpolis (german blender community):
http://www.mininova.org/tor/2710440
2nd torrent mirror:
http://files.getdropbox.com/u/308096/openArtist.iso.torrent
torrent was created by Hypercrush and posted by Apocylptica
This distro looks cool, but I have to agree with Supertobi. I don't want to do a fresh install. I'd rather leave my current version of Ubuntu intact.
Anyone got a BT tracker? I don't mind putting this up, and if at least a couple other people who got the whole ISO do the same, we could spread this thing around pretty fast.
Work upstream. A separate project and distribution might be useful, but this is clearly nothing that justifies the extra work as a standalone project.
It is a lot of work to maintain a distro over time.
Skolelinux is a good example of a custom Debian distribution that works upstream. Skolelinux tries to keep the amount of differences at a minimum. They always tries to get their work upstream into Debian and the other projects they depend on.
Skolelinux needed a better installer for their users. They helped develop and sponsored the development of the current Debian installer. Skolelinux did not do this in a vacuum, it made much more sense to do this with the Debian community and make this the new default Debian installer. Debian and Ubuntu is now using the installer made for Skolelinux. The Skolelinux installer is now maintained upstream by Ubuntu and Debian.
Pretty cool, but still.... YET ANOTHER DISTRO... we really don't need those because they shit on linux's identity, which means they make things worse for linux overall, so imho, distrowatch needs to die or lose it's value at least.
I might try it out in virtualbox just to check out some of the applications I might know about...
@Dread Knight :
I once thought as you, but no more...
There are many distro's out there, and each is different experience and meant for different users.
Take this Openartist distro for example - it already have several Blender versions and daily Blender 2.5 updates included.
Moreover it has many useful renders built-in (or could be easily downloaded and installed inside the distro) , it also has many graphical programs - this distro is meant for artists.
While you can waste several hours and days setting up all those features on your own distro of choice - but why do it if you already have it ?
There are many distro's that meant for different audience and the freedom to choose is vital.
I wonder why Sharpconstruct is included as an app that haven't updated for 3 years?
great stuff! What a nice way to get to know some other useful software apart from blender and gimp!
Thx a lot!
> E17 as default manager?
maybe. but then expect that you have to build your own menu...
>kde4.2.4
nope. I hacked the kde4.2 core-libraries into hardy, to run some kde4 apps, but not more.
> need less Linux Distributions...
That depends on point of view. As I am lazy I prefer less, too. But then you miss some exceptional work from people who show whats possible with linux, look at dynebolic, puredyde e.g. Nevertheless, there are plans to put all things of openArtist into one big Metapackage, available through an extra repository, so that any ubuntu user can use it.
But to be debian-conform, to upstream - thats a whole other story. There would be too many things to do which I can gratefully ignore right now. so - yes, could be done - but for one person...
generally, its a bit hard to get all the configuration work done packed into packages..
> true FireWire support
ffado drivers are backported from jaunty, and I installed ls1394, a script to query firewire devices just like lsusb does for usb. but no fiddling with permissions.
>(Blender) audio problems
do you know bpyjack?
>why Sharpconstruct
why not, if it works and makes fun to play with...
> no video NLE listed
I cannot list everything, but the homepage does. Cinelerra, kdenlive, kino, pitivi, blendervse
zs4. Lives and openmovieeditor are not working right now.
"do you know bpyjack?" I only recently found it and was going to try it soon...
My question: if I had problems with PulseAudio in 9.04 will openArtist work for me? Is there a way to disable PulseAudio? Basically I need to be able to animate to music, edit to music and export video with sound from Blender and at the same time be able of having other apps open and working that need sound without not having or loosing sound in one app.
pbyjack sounds very nice for audio mixing, but I still need a combined audio/video export from Blender working. And since I am also trying to convince others to use the Blender VSE I am looking for a Linux distro that plays nice with Blender and audio, where everything works in Blender without having to fix the sound system first (PulseAudio) or run other apps for audio (Ardour) when you e.g. just want to edit a music video.
I've downloaded openArtist now and will test it within the next couple of days, this really does look like a very interesting project!
I can't agree that there are too many distros out there, at least so far I have not found one that does what I hoped Ubuntu would do: just work (for multimedia). (I also like the idea of Mint: having all codexes pre installed, a fresh Ubuntu install on a PC without an internet connection is pretty frustrating when it comes to multimedia playback...)
Paypal (UK) website has went down for the time being.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/24/paypal_uk_down/
That maybe why the paypal link isn't working.
Nice distro but it's aiming to have everything in there, I'd like a to try this one out but suspect I'd be removing quite few items rather than scratching my head as to how to properly deploy the apps (specially the distributed rendering aspects) which is not a bad thing.
ok, i downloaded yesterday, installed today on a test machine.
it installed just like ubuntu. cool
i m on proxy network. i setup this one and it starts adding things (hardware driver / etc)
even vga didn't worked. it updates driver and tell some unique brand vega or something where as initially it was showing nvidia 8 series which was right. >> ne way, i can deal with this because my final computer will have nvidia or ati.
still main question is about support / update
for almost all main apps. you have provided scripts to update (like blender, which i really like)
but will there be any updates. what about moving kernet from default ubuntu 8 to 9(janty)
Q1- will my computer be able to udpate default ubuntu updates from synaptic.
Q2- quite amazingly, wine worked well (i was unable to run wine door (easy way for installation)) >> it never showed up any GUI..
but i copied combustion (autodesk motion software) to c drive. double click, it runs exe and installed perfectly.
it even creates desktop icon, which double clicking worked in demo / trial mode. perfectly.
but as wine / windows doesn't have explorer, it wasn't possible to use licensing feature.
i tried explorer 8, it installs successfully but somehow combustion was unable to find explorer as program and successfully resolve licensing issue.
any idea about resolving this issue??
Q3- how frequently, you will release update. and is it possible to update everything from web, just like ubuntu 8 automatically updates to ubuntu 9....
lastly, can someone, please recommend apps comparable / replaceable for
a- motion graphics (after effects / combustion)
b- flash
btw: huge thanks in advance. generally speaking i really liked the effort of combining all the things togeather.
regards, lala
>will there be any updates.
yes.
>udpate default ubuntu updates from synaptic works?
yes.
>how frequently, you will release update.
depends on how many donations I get ;-)
>recommend apps comparable / replaceable for
>a- motion graphics (after effects / combustion)
not really much out there (in FLOSS). blender, zs4.
jahshaka is not useable, lumiera is not ready.
lives and openmovieeditor should be mentioned, though more nla orientated.
commerical apps would be nuke , houdini also seems to be capable of compositing.
http://www.linuxmovies.org/software.html
>b- flash
you can do highly sophisticated stuff in javascript /Canvas.
jquery, raphaeljs, processingjs, hyper-metrix.com/#Burst .
haxe, openlaszlo, swfdec generate flash out of code.
blender can render to flash.
then there is Papervision3D...
but with gui, there is only shockweaver, that works similar to flash.
And thats a very young project, haven't reviewed it in depth.
its incuded in openArtist.
>any idea about resolving this issue??
nope.
>combining all the things together.
thats what I wanted to do.
Thanks for reply about E17.
if you could add it as an option whether the one would like use Gnome KDE or E17(16) and other if possible managers it would be really great. And if the programs comes installed as default I don;'t think there will be a trouble to build own menus ;)
I am so excited ;) Good luck with your Linux releases and become one of the most loved ones ;)
Sincerely.
Veery great thing !!!!!!
Thank you !!!
>if I had problems with PulseAudio in 9.04 will openArtist work for me?
pulse audio is not activated by default in openArtist, though its there. that should be no problem.
bpyjack could be the soulution to this, anyways.
>a combined audio/video export from Blender working.
hmm. I have not tried this. You could use qjadeo, a jack-aware video player, which is created only for this purpose of enabling the music part to be editable in Ardour, in sync to video.
>about E17. if you could add it as an option ...
I will concentrate on the artist tools right now. I once had an openbox fork, but then decided to stick with gnome, as I did not want to build the applications menu twice. But feel free to experiment with it.
anyways, thanks for good feeback to all!
This is WAY cool guys. I use Ubuntu Linux for the exact reason of blender. Now that there's a Modded version of ubuntu for just that very reason, I'm SO downloading it! Thanks!
">if I had problems with PulseAudio in 9.04 will openArtist work for me?
pulse audio is not activated by default in openArtist, though its there. that should be no problem.
bpyjack could be the soulution to this, anyways."
">a combined audio/video export from Blender working.
hmm. I have not tried this. You could use qjadeo, a jack-aware video player, which is created only for this purpose of enabling the music part to be editable in Ardour, in sync to video."
Great! As long as PulseAudio is off this will most probably all work...! I'm making back-ups today and will go for a full install of openArtist on the weekend. (I think it's good you started with 8.04, 8.10 and 9.04 might be newer but not necessarily better/more stable...) I'll post some feedback in the blenderartist thread once I got everything working or should there be issues/workarounds of interest to others. Thanks again!
Installed it today but....
the only thing that is not working is blender, it just open the window and then close.
anyone having the same problem?
it also keep messing with my keyboard layout
if anyone have the same problem or know a solution please help me...
> the only thing that is not working is blender, it just open the window and then close.
have you tried starting it from commandline? update via repository? blender should definitely work.
>it also keep messing with my keyboard layout
yeah there is something uncool going on. as a workaround you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(most conveniently via "ControlCenter>Special> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" launcher) and add or alter these lines:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "de"
Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection
Oh sorry, i wasn't clear.
in fact what, it is having troble with my videoboard ...
you know if it will work fine with a GeForce 6600 LE?
thanks for the keyboar advice, its fine now!
now the only thing is the video.
i installed it manually, and then as it dont work fine, by ENVY, but not blender nor the desktop effects could be initialized..
please if you know something about it...
>please if you know something about it…
jou can join the discussion here:
http://openartist.lefora.com/2009/06/27/nvidia-driver-problems
oh, thank you so much.
i'm looking forward to solve this issue, i really apreciate your project!
Rather than redesigning the wheel, why not take this great talent and improve on current distro's & software.
When one has to keep switching os's and programs such as blender undergo a complete overhaul, how is one to keep his/her sanity? This isn't an advance in production. It hinders one's ability & train of thought.
I'm perfectly content with Ubuntu's Jaunty, Blender 2.49a, Gimp, and AutoSketch.
Providing they are optimized to their fullest potential!
>Rather than redesigning the wheel
yeah, but I also make things nobody did before. And I also configured so many things, and some things could not be possible in the normal distro (=not applicable for average user) Nevertheless, I agree with you, I am planning to modularize everything so that I can make an Addon metapackage, which can be installed into any recent ubuntu. That is one hell of a work, but I think its worth. Also, the ubuntustudio guys asked me to join and help their project.. time will tell what happens. I am quite happy with my work, also that I can decide alone the direction it goes until now. but I am adaptable..
>When one has to keep switching os's and programs such as blender undergo a complete >overhaul, how is one to keep his/her sanity?
>I'm perfectly content with Ubuntu's Jaunty.......
hä?
well my friend, there is a discrepance in your argumentation. thats not really possible to keep content with ubuntu, as this os keeps one (forces one) to update every 6 months.. ( I know the update mechanisme, though, And this does not always work, so this does not count.) So, maybe switch to a rolling release?!?. I will definitely have to look into arch... But well.. try my distro and you will see that I thought a big portion on the solutions I provide (not only the programs, also the interface, help, config..).
But in general, I am with you. I also would like standard ubuntu to be more open to the incredible amount of multimedia related programs out there.
>Providing they are optimized to their fullest potential!
try my gimp and blender version(s) and you"ll know why standard ubuntu is not at full potential.
ok, please do consider my comments again.
as i was one of first, who installed n tested it.
about ubuntu studio or joining their team>> trust me i have tested that as well.
actually i think they should join you. you have really done huge amount of work. where as ubuntu studio is just some pretty wallpapers n basic apps configuration.
but keeping practicality in mind, i agree that making everything ubuntu project the way ubuntu studio has done>> after installing ubuntu one can update just by selecting their package from normal snaptic and its udpated.
this is whats going to help increase userbase. give artists to test n work n shift.
lastly, don't worry about size as everyone in this world now has good / speedy internet access. doing few GB's update from snaptic won't be issue if its saving few weeks effort and confimation about optimized version with latest updates etc.
lastly, if you can incorporate / consider point about commercial big 3d apps. / drivers conflicts that would be awesome.
lets say>> ATI radeon new drivers (catalyst 9)has issues with maya / houdini. even their previous version was really well (catalyst 8). now as ubuntu default (9) has updated latest drivers without thinking how one can use previous drivers.
i had been facing this issue right now even, in windows, i can easily uninstall newer and install previous version but in ubuntu or ubuntu studio its out of my brain right now.
should be simple GUI for artist to choose or windows like next next thing...
anyway, still goodluck
>actually i think they should join you.
hmm. could definietly need more people,
>just some pretty wallpapers n basic apps configuration.
well, thay also do a quite well rt-kernel
>can update just by selecting their package from normal snaptic
that would be the goal, but Its hard to generate the menus and add the configurations via packages.
I am currently working on that.
> doing few GB's update from snaptic won't be issue
as long as the server who is serving the date is capable enough...
>point about commercial big 3d apps.
I can collet information about these and how they interfere with ubunutu and hardware, and add this to the mindmap/help
Actually I plan to add some scripts which will download and install nuke PLE, Houdini apprentice etc, so I will have
to look into that a bit.
>lets say>> ATI radeon new drivers (catalyst 9)has issues with maya / houdini. even their previous version was really >well (catalyst 8). now as ubuntu default (9) has updated latest drivers without thinking how one can use previous >drivers.
hmm yeah, thats the case beause they are working heavily on Xserver and friends down there. Hardy is quite oldscool here. So, collecting information for this purpose should be no problem, but testing it myself... If I decide to give commercial support, I"ll have to..
>should be simple GUI for artist to choose or windows like next next thing…
hmm. I don"t think thats really possible. You know, in 9.04, HAL decides itself which driver to choose, in my knowledge you cannot interfere there. In hardy, there is also some functionality builtin to provide this, but nowhere near to 9.04-ones. And thats good, as you see the problems rising up with this new technology. I think it is a great thing, but as there is the transition now, and the underlying things are not finished, I "ll stick with oldscool hardy.
As for openAritst, I will try to givve instructions to install the drivers by hand. I have done this for nvidia, ati/amd will follow. I automated the script a bit, but I don't think that I can make a GUI for that, as you have to kill gdm (and X) for installing these drivers. So, may be a commandline based gui.... Actually, the process of installing the drivers by hand is quite straightforward. I have to get moe information on SLI and Crossfire though.