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	<title>Comments on: Win an internship at CERN, Switzerland</title>
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		<title>By: Alex Blank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Blank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I regard it as just like any other audition really.  You have to prove that you&#039;ll are competent enough to be useful for them and that&#039;s fine with me.  The difference between this and slavery (as Marimba called it) is that if one doesn&#039;t want to do it, they are not forced to make the investment of time.   I&#039;d make a submission if I did not have a year left in high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I regard it as just like any other audition really.  You have to prove that you&#039;ll are competent enough to be useful for them and that&#039;s fine with me.  The difference between this and slavery (as Marimba called it) is that if one doesn&#039;t want to do it, they are not forced to make the investment of time.   I&#039;d make a submission if I did not have a year left in high school.</p>
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		<title>By: ysvry</title>
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		<dc:creator>ysvry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a bit too much rules for my liking, a stay in switzerland would be nice though , isnt there a yodel heidi I can teach the blender basics for meals and housing? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a bit too much rules for my liking, a stay in switzerland would be nice though , isnt there a yodel heidi I can teach the blender basics for meals and housing? :P</p>
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		<title>By: Drd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand when they are talking about retaining the right to the material, they are talking about the material created while the person is doing the Internship, and not the submissions to the contest. Although they might need to clarify this a bit better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand when they are talking about retaining the right to the material, they are talking about the material created while the person is doing the Internship, and not the submissions to the contest. Although they might need to clarify this a bit better.</p>
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		<title>By: paulica</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, for me it will be enough if I will see my work on their website! a good oportunity to enter in the history :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, for me it will be enough if I will see my work on their website! a good oportunity to enter in the history :)</p>
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		<title>By: Magiciandude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magiciandude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t enter because I&#039;m going to be in school this fall, but I think it sounds legit.

There are several competitions like this all the time. This generally seems to be the way they&#039;re set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#039;t enter because I&#039;m going to be in school this fall, but I think it sounds legit.</p>
<p>There are several competitions like this all the time. This generally seems to be the way they&#039;re set up.</p>
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		<title>By: andy circus</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy circus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like maybe they&#039;re trying to riegn in any rogue Hadron Collider animations with the offer of two meals a day :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like maybe they&#039;re trying to riegn in any rogue Hadron Collider animations with the offer of two meals a day :D</p>
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		<title>By: DeMoN</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/win-an-internship-at-cern-switzerland/comment-page-1/#comment-490456</link>
		<dc:creator>DeMoN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, learn to read, it says &lt;b&gt;maximum&lt;/b&gt; 5 minutes, they probably want to see that somebody is capable enough to visually explain a complex scientific piece of equipment&#039;s operation, which is not easy, just try to make a &quot;god particle&quot; that isn&#039;t just a sphere in a deep dark space, add all the glow, and streaks you want, I bet it still wont look good....

Anyway, here&#039;s hoping its not like half-life, but more like the event that made Dr.Manhattan, I&#039;ve always wanted to walk around naked and glow blue, here&#039;s my chance ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, learn to read, it says <b>maximum</b> 5 minutes, they probably want to see that somebody is capable enough to visually explain a complex scientific piece of equipment&#039;s operation, which is not easy, just try to make a &#034;god particle&#034; that isn&#039;t just a sphere in a deep dark space, add all the glow, and streaks you want, I bet it still wont look good&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyway, here&#039;s hoping its not like half-life, but more like the event that made Dr.Manhattan, I&#039;ve always wanted to walk around naked and glow blue, here&#039;s my chance ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ledd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ledd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too half-life like for me .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too half-life like for me .</p>
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		<title>By: Marimba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter how worth is an internship tp give away your hard work. The community shouldn&#039;t fall for this. Slavery was supposedly over some time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#039;t matter how worth is an internship tp give away your hard work. The community shouldn&#039;t fall for this. Slavery was supposedly over some time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: MartianR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartianR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a good thing, overall. The thing is, to get the internship, it&#039;s a creative ideas pitch, and a free one at that. It happens, though it&#039;s not ideal - sort of like painting someone&#039;s house to prove that you can paint someone&#039;s house. In practice, existing visual creds&#039; should be sufficient, though doing some upfront work for a pitch is fairly usual. A five minute multimedia piece is quite a bit of work in terms of craftsmanship an usually goes beyond what might be considered an ideas pitch. In normal creative pitch situations, one can expect to hand over a certain amount on creative rights if SUCCESSFUL, though the following is unacceptable in practice :

USE BY ATLAS: ATLAS will retain all rights to use the multimedia projects submitted during 
the application process in whole or in part, for publicity, outreach, or other purposes.

this one makes no sense either:

PRIOR WORK: Applicants may submit prior multimedia work, provided that it satisfies the 
application requirements, as long as that work was completed after January 1, 2008.

They are obviously looking for someone with pretty good skills to present something high-profile, within a commercial environment. The internship - ie getting some one young seems like a red herring. If they have the skills at a commercial level in a commercial or establishment environment then the remuneration should reflect this.

Overall this seems less like an actual internship, and really just a pitch with some subsistence on offer.

It might lead to some good personal exposure, and I suppose it&#039;s for the individual to decide, but if a working relationship starts out in a devalued way, then perhaps that&#039;s the way it continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s a good thing, overall. The thing is, to get the internship, it&#039;s a creative ideas pitch, and a free one at that. It happens, though it&#039;s not ideal &#8211; sort of like painting someone&#039;s house to prove that you can paint someone&#039;s house. In practice, existing visual creds&#039; should be sufficient, though doing some upfront work for a pitch is fairly usual. A five minute multimedia piece is quite a bit of work in terms of craftsmanship an usually goes beyond what might be considered an ideas pitch. In normal creative pitch situations, one can expect to hand over a certain amount on creative rights if SUCCESSFUL, though the following is unacceptable in practice :</p>
<p>USE BY ATLAS: ATLAS will retain all rights to use the multimedia projects submitted during<br />
the application process in whole or in part, for publicity, outreach, or other purposes.</p>
<p>this one makes no sense either:</p>
<p>PRIOR WORK: Applicants may submit prior multimedia work, provided that it satisfies the<br />
application requirements, as long as that work was completed after January 1, 2008.</p>
<p>They are obviously looking for someone with pretty good skills to present something high-profile, within a commercial environment. The internship &#8211; ie getting some one young seems like a red herring. If they have the skills at a commercial level in a commercial or establishment environment then the remuneration should reflect this.</p>
<p>Overall this seems less like an actual internship, and really just a pitch with some subsistence on offer.</p>
<p>It might lead to some good personal exposure, and I suppose it&#039;s for the individual to decide, but if a working relationship starts out in a devalued way, then perhaps that&#039;s the way it continues.</p>
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