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		<title>By: epat</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/pasteallorg-beta-easily-share-large-blocks-of-code-and-text/comment-page-1/#comment-294639</link>
		<dc:creator>epat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the suggestion to use a less easily guessable ID! Most download sites do it too to prevent people from just wandering into downloads or attempting to download the entire lot/as much as possible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the suggestion to use a less easily guessable ID! Most download sites do it too to prevent people from just wandering into downloads or attempting to download the entire lot/as much as possible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kernon</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/pasteallorg-beta-easily-share-large-blocks-of-code-and-text/comment-page-1/#comment-292591</link>
		<dc:creator>Kernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be a good idea to require a short title and description of the item. Not everyone will properly comment their code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be a good idea to require a short title and description of the item. Not everyone will properly comment their code.</p>
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		<title>By: 86point5</title>
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		<dc:creator>86point5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>macuono,

I think what Dion is talking about is a unique pseudo-random id. Something like &quot;13e4gb98a&quot; instead of just &quot;14&quot;. This way, it makes it harder for someone to just &quot;walk through&quot; all the entries by incrementing or decrementing the number from a known URL.

Depending on how long you wanted them to be, you could use something like MD5 to come up with one. MD5 signatures are a little long (32 hex chars) - but you could combine the two approaches to generate a non-guessable ID.

Take the normal ID number you would assign: 14
append a hyphen
Calculate the MD5 of the uploaded file and use every 4th char (total of 8)

You then end up with an ID like &quot;14-a742ee0b&quot;

This doesn&#039;t prevent an automated dictionary attack - but it still provides 4 billion possible combinations of &quot;hash&quot; for each number you assign. It makes it unlikely for someone to just &quot;wander&quot; into someone else&#039;s pasted code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>macuono,</p>
<p>I think what Dion is talking about is a unique pseudo-random id. Something like &#034;13e4gb98a&#034; instead of just &#034;14&#034;. This way, it makes it harder for someone to just &#034;walk through&#034; all the entries by incrementing or decrementing the number from a known URL.</p>
<p>Depending on how long you wanted them to be, you could use something like MD5 to come up with one. MD5 signatures are a little long (32 hex chars) &#8211; but you could combine the two approaches to generate a non-guessable ID.</p>
<p>Take the normal ID number you would assign: 14<br />
append a hyphen<br />
Calculate the MD5 of the uploaded file and use every 4th char (total of 8)</p>
<p>You then end up with an ID like &#034;14-a742ee0b&#034;</p>
<p>This doesn&#039;t prevent an automated dictionary attack &#8211; but it still provides 4 billion possible combinations of &#034;hash&#034; for each number you assign. It makes it unlikely for someone to just &#034;wander&#034; into someone else&#039;s pasted code.</p>
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		<title>By: macouno</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/pasteallorg-beta-easily-share-large-blocks-of-code-and-text/comment-page-1/#comment-292200</link>
		<dc:creator>macouno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys thanks for the feedback.

@Dion
1. Well it is unique already, I&#039;m not sure we can get more unique than this...
2. Yes currently pastes are simply stored... it&#039;s one of those things we&#039;re considering for the next release.
3. LOL... ehm... I&#039;ll go find out who put that in and kick their butts... well spotted.

@scibotic
There is a &quot;copy to clipboard&quot; button at the right top, behind the &quot;view as&quot; dropdown.

Remember this is just something that makes it easy for people to show the code they have to other people, it&#039;s not an online editor, that would be very very complicated, as would showing errors in code (though it might be interesting to look at).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys thanks for the feedback.</p>
<p>@Dion<br />
1. Well it is unique already, I&#039;m not sure we can get more unique than this&#8230;<br />
2. Yes currently pastes are simply stored&#8230; it&#039;s one of those things we&#039;re considering for the next release.<br />
3. LOL&#8230; ehm&#8230; I&#039;ll go find out who put that in and kick their butts&#8230; well spotted.</p>
<p>@scibotic<br />
There is a &#034;copy to clipboard&#034; button at the right top, behind the &#034;view as&#034; dropdown.</p>
<p>Remember this is just something that makes it easy for people to show the code they have to other people, it&#039;s not an online editor, that would be very very complicated, as would showing errors in code (though it might be interesting to look at).</p>
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		<title>By: Kernon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jacob
I think what you will need is more of an actual coding IDE. You can check out Stani&#039;s Python Editor for that. It supports the editing of Blender python code.

http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2007/02/how-to-download-latest-spe-from_26.html

I think PasteAll is mainly geared toward the sharing of code that&#039;s already completed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jacob<br />
I think what you will need is more of an actual coding IDE. You can check out Stani&#039;s Python Editor for that. It supports the editing of Blender python code.</p>
<p><a href="http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2007/02/how-to-download-latest-spe-from_26.html" rel="nofollow">http://pythonide.blogspot.com/2007/02/how-to-download-latest-spe-from_26.html</a></p>
<p>I think PasteAll is mainly geared toward the sharing of code that&#039;s already completed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Randal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is one sweet site. I think it will be very useful. The only thing I can think of to add would be a tool that underlines any mistakes in the code (misspellings, incomplete statements, etc). Of course it would be very complex but it would be nice to have, especially for python.

Concerning python, what are the most common mistakes users tend to make? Perhaps a tool can be made to address these common mistakes and get users back on track. The tool might make auto-complete suggestions to users as they write, based upon what has already been written in the code. This would be useful for people who don&#039;t want to type a long command multiple times, they can just type it once and use the use auto-complete for all the rest.

However, I&#039;m not an avid python user, so my suggestions can only go so far. I&#039;d like to see other suggestions from some more qualified people. What do you guys think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is one sweet site. I think it will be very useful. The only thing I can think of to add would be a tool that underlines any mistakes in the code (misspellings, incomplete statements, etc). Of course it would be very complex but it would be nice to have, especially for python.</p>
<p>Concerning python, what are the most common mistakes users tend to make? Perhaps a tool can be made to address these common mistakes and get users back on track. The tool might make auto-complete suggestions to users as they write, based upon what has already been written in the code. This would be useful for people who don&#039;t want to type a long command multiple times, they can just type it once and use the use auto-complete for all the rest.</p>
<p>However, I&#039;m not an avid python user, so my suggestions can only go so far. I&#039;d like to see other suggestions from some more qualified people. What do you guys think?</p>
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		<title>By: SCIBOTIC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCIBOTIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A download button that links to a plain text file would be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A download button that links to a plain text file would be good.</p>
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		<title>By: Dion Moult</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/pasteallorg-beta-easily-share-large-blocks-of-code-and-text/comment-page-1/#comment-291640</link>
		<dc:creator>Dion Moult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always used pastebin.com in the past...some edits I would recommend:

1) Give pastes a UNIQUE id, don&#039;t just increment it.
2) Give an option as to how long the paste will be kept for. Some people don&#039;t need it more than a day, some only a month, and some forever. It&#039;s good for your users, and good for you as well.
3) Don&#039;t make the pasteall.org header link to the homepage in a new page...make it open in the same page. If people wanted it to open in a new window they&#039;ll right click -&gt; open in new window/tab or just middle click (Firefox ftw)

Great job!

(The Makers of the Blender Model Repository are also cooking something up!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve always used pastebin.com in the past&#8230;some edits I would recommend:</p>
<p>1) Give pastes a UNIQUE id, don&#039;t just increment it.<br />
2) Give an option as to how long the paste will be kept for. Some people don&#039;t need it more than a day, some only a month, and some forever. It&#039;s good for your users, and good for you as well.<br />
3) Don&#039;t make the pasteall.org header link to the homepage in a new page&#8230;make it open in the same page. If people wanted it to open in a new window they&#039;ll right click -&gt; open in new window/tab or just middle click (Firefox ftw)</p>
<p>Great job!</p>
<p>(The Makers of the Blender Model Repository are also cooking something up!)</p>
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		<title>By: teatime</title>
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		<dc:creator>teatime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.pastebin.com too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pastebin.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.pastebin.com</a> too</p>
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		<title>By: macouno</title>
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		<dc:creator>macouno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amoose, definitely... I already told someone to write it, I&#039;ll write something to explain a few features myself as well ;)

I also fixed the code looking weird for basse, apparently konqueror didn&#039;t like the way it used actual &quot;tabs&quot;... should look good in every browser now. If not... let me know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amoose, definitely&#8230; I already told someone to write it, I&#039;ll write something to explain a few features myself as well ;)</p>
<p>I also fixed the code looking weird for basse, apparently konqueror didn&#039;t like the way it used actual &#034;tabs&#034;&#8230; should look good in every browser now. If not&#8230; let me know!</p>
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