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		<title>By: openartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>openartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;actually i think they should join you.
hmm. could definietly need more people, 

&gt;just some pretty wallpapers n basic apps configuration.
well, thay also do a quite well rt-kernel

&gt;can update just by selecting their package from normal snaptic 
that would be the goal, but Its hard to generate the menus and add the configurations via packages.
I am currently working on that.

&gt; doing few GB&#039;s update from snaptic won&#039;t be issue 
as long as the server who is serving the date is capable enough...

&gt;point about commercial big 3d apps.
I can collet information about these and how they interfere with ubunutu and hardware, and add this to the mindmap/help
Actually I plan to add some scripts which will download and install nuke PLE, Houdini apprentice etc, so I will have
to look into that a bit.
 
&gt;lets say&gt;&gt; ATI radeon new drivers (catalyst 9)has issues with maya / houdini. even their previous version was really &gt;well (catalyst 8). now as ubuntu default (9) has updated latest drivers without thinking how one can use previous &gt;drivers.
hmm yeah, thats the case beause they are working heavily on Xserver and friends down there. Hardy is quite oldscool here. So, collecting information for this purpose should be no problem, but testing it myself... If I decide to give commercial support, I&quot;ll have to..

&gt;should be simple GUI for artist to choose or windows like next next thing…
hmm. I don&quot;t think thats really possible. You know, in 9.04, HAL decides itself which driver to choose, in my knowledge you cannot interfere there. In hardy, there is also some functionality builtin to provide this, but nowhere near to 9.04-ones. And thats good, as you see the problems rising up with this new technology. I think it is a great thing, but as there is the transition now, and the underlying things are not finished, I &quot;ll stick with oldscool hardy. 
As for openAritst, I will try to givve instructions to install the drivers by hand. I have done this for nvidia, ati/amd will follow. I automated the script a bit, but I don&#039;t think that I can make a GUI for that, as you have to kill gdm (and X) for installing these drivers. So, may be a commandline based gui.... Actually, the process of installing the drivers by hand is quite straightforward. I have to get moe information on SLI and Crossfire though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;actually i think they should join you.<br />
hmm. could definietly need more people, </p>
<p>&gt;just some pretty wallpapers n basic apps configuration.<br />
well, thay also do a quite well rt-kernel</p>
<p>&gt;can update just by selecting their package from normal snaptic<br />
that would be the goal, but Its hard to generate the menus and add the configurations via packages.<br />
I am currently working on that.</p>
<p>&gt; doing few GB&#039;s update from snaptic won&#039;t be issue<br />
as long as the server who is serving the date is capable enough&#8230;</p>
<p>&gt;point about commercial big 3d apps.<br />
I can collet information about these and how they interfere with ubunutu and hardware, and add this to the mindmap/help<br />
Actually I plan to add some scripts which will download and install nuke PLE, Houdini apprentice etc, so I will have<br />
to look into that a bit.</p>
<p>&gt;lets say&gt;&gt; ATI radeon new drivers (catalyst 9)has issues with maya / houdini. even their previous version was really &gt;well (catalyst 8). now as ubuntu default (9) has updated latest drivers without thinking how one can use previous &gt;drivers.<br />
hmm yeah, thats the case beause they are working heavily on Xserver and friends down there. Hardy is quite oldscool here. So, collecting information for this purpose should be no problem, but testing it myself&#8230; If I decide to give commercial support, I&#034;ll have to..</p>
<p>&gt;should be simple GUI for artist to choose or windows like next next thing…<br />
hmm. I don&#034;t think thats really possible. You know, in 9.04, HAL decides itself which driver to choose, in my knowledge you cannot interfere there. In hardy, there is also some functionality builtin to provide this, but nowhere near to 9.04-ones. And thats good, as you see the problems rising up with this new technology. I think it is a great thing, but as there is the transition now, and the underlying things are not finished, I &#034;ll stick with oldscool hardy.<br />
As for openAritst, I will try to givve instructions to install the drivers by hand. I have done this for nvidia, ati/amd will follow. I automated the script a bit, but I don&#039;t think that I can make a GUI for that, as you have to kill gdm (and X) for installing these drivers. So, may be a commandline based gui&#8230;. Actually, the process of installing the drivers by hand is quite straightforward. I have to get moe information on SLI and Crossfire though.</p>
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		<title>By: lala</title>
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		<dc:creator>lala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, please do consider my comments again.
as i was one of first, who installed n tested it.

about ubuntu studio or joining their team&gt;&gt; trust me i have tested that as well.
actually i think they should join you. you have really done huge amount of work. where as ubuntu studio is just some pretty wallpapers n basic apps configuration.

but keeping practicality in mind, i agree that making everything ubuntu project the way ubuntu studio has done&gt;&gt; after installing ubuntu one can update just by selecting their package from normal snaptic and its udpated.
this is whats going to help increase userbase. give artists to test n work n shift.
lastly, don&#039;t worry about size as everyone in this world now has good / speedy internet access. doing few GB&#039;s update from snaptic won&#039;t be issue if its saving few weeks effort and confimation about optimized version with latest updates etc.

lastly, if you can incorporate / consider point about commercial big 3d apps. / drivers conflicts that would be awesome.
lets say&gt;&gt; ATI radeon new drivers (catalyst 9)has issues with maya / houdini. even their previous version was really well (catalyst 8). now as ubuntu default (9) has updated latest drivers without thinking how one can use previous drivers.
i had been facing this issue right now even, in windows, i can easily uninstall newer and install previous version but in ubuntu or ubuntu studio its out of my brain right now.
should be simple GUI for artist to choose or windows like next next thing...
anyway, still goodluck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, please do consider my comments again.<br />
as i was one of first, who installed n tested it.</p>
<p>about ubuntu studio or joining their team&gt;&gt; trust me i have tested that as well.<br />
actually i think they should join you. you have really done huge amount of work. where as ubuntu studio is just some pretty wallpapers n basic apps configuration.</p>
<p>but keeping practicality in mind, i agree that making everything ubuntu project the way ubuntu studio has done&gt;&gt; after installing ubuntu one can update just by selecting their package from normal snaptic and its udpated.<br />
this is whats going to help increase userbase. give artists to test n work n shift.<br />
lastly, don&#039;t worry about size as everyone in this world now has good / speedy internet access. doing few GB&#039;s update from snaptic won&#039;t be issue if its saving few weeks effort and confimation about optimized version with latest updates etc.</p>
<p>lastly, if you can incorporate / consider point about commercial big 3d apps. / drivers conflicts that would be awesome.<br />
lets say&gt;&gt; ATI radeon new drivers (catalyst 9)has issues with maya / houdini. even their previous version was really well (catalyst 8). now as ubuntu default (9) has updated latest drivers without thinking how one can use previous drivers.<br />
i had been facing this issue right now even, in windows, i can easily uninstall newer and install previous version but in ubuntu or ubuntu studio its out of my brain right now.<br />
should be simple GUI for artist to choose or windows like next next thing&#8230;<br />
anyway, still goodluck</p>
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		<title>By: openartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>openartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Rather than redesigning the wheel
yeah, but I also make things nobody did before. And I also configured so many things, and some things could not be possible in the normal distro (=not applicable for average user) Nevertheless, I agree with you, I am planning to modularize everything so that I can make an Addon metapackage, which can be installed into any recent ubuntu. That is one hell of a work, but I think its worth. Also, the ubuntustudio guys asked me to join and help their project.. time will tell what happens.  I am quite happy with my work, also that I can decide alone the direction it goes until now. but I am adaptable..


&gt;When one has to keep switching os&#039;s and programs such as blender undergo a complete &gt;overhaul, how is one to keep his/her sanity?
&gt;I&#039;m perfectly content with Ubuntu&#039;s Jaunty.......
hä?
well my friend, there is a discrepance in your argumentation. thats not really possible to keep content with ubuntu, as this os keeps one (forces one) to update every 6 months.. ( I know the update mechanisme, though, And this does not always work, so this does not count.) So, maybe switch to a rolling release?!?.  I will definitely have to look into arch... But well.. try my distro and you will see that I thought a big portion on the solutions I provide (not only the programs, also the interface, help, config..). 
But in general, I am with you. I also would like standard ubuntu to be more open to the incredible amount of multimedia related programs out there. 

&gt;Providing they are optimized to their  fullest potential! 
try my gimp and blender version(s) and you&quot;ll know why standard ubuntu is not at full potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Rather than redesigning the wheel<br />
yeah, but I also make things nobody did before. And I also configured so many things, and some things could not be possible in the normal distro (=not applicable for average user) Nevertheless, I agree with you, I am planning to modularize everything so that I can make an Addon metapackage, which can be installed into any recent ubuntu. That is one hell of a work, but I think its worth. Also, the ubuntustudio guys asked me to join and help their project.. time will tell what happens.  I am quite happy with my work, also that I can decide alone the direction it goes until now. but I am adaptable..</p>
<p>&gt;When one has to keep switching os&#039;s and programs such as blender undergo a complete &gt;overhaul, how is one to keep his/her sanity?<br />
&gt;I&#039;m perfectly content with Ubuntu&#039;s Jaunty&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
hä?<br />
well my friend, there is a discrepance in your argumentation. thats not really possible to keep content with ubuntu, as this os keeps one (forces one) to update every 6 months.. ( I know the update mechanisme, though, And this does not always work, so this does not count.) So, maybe switch to a rolling release?!?.  I will definitely have to look into arch&#8230; But well.. try my distro and you will see that I thought a big portion on the solutions I provide (not only the programs, also the interface, help, config..).<br />
But in general, I am with you. I also would like standard ubuntu to be more open to the incredible amount of multimedia related programs out there. </p>
<p>&gt;Providing they are optimized to their  fullest potential!<br />
try my gimp and blender version(s) and you&#034;ll know why standard ubuntu is not at full potential.</p>
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		<title>By: Linux graphics open alternatives - Grafica con Linux &#171; Informatiche {bubbakk}</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linux graphics open alternatives - Grafica con Linux &#171; Informatiche {bubbakk}</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] è la new entry. Fresca fresca, annunciata anche sul blog di BlenderArtist, questa distribuzione si distingue per l&#8217;enorme quantità di software presente. E&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] è la new entry. Fresca fresca, annunciata anche sul blog di BlenderArtist, questa distribuzione si distingue per l&#039;enorme quantità di software presente. E&#039; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: a2z</title>
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		<dc:creator>a2z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than redesigning the wheel, why not take this great talent and improve on current distro&#039;s &amp; software. 

When one has to keep switching os&#039;s and programs such as blender undergo a complete overhaul, how is one to keep his/her sanity? This isn&#039;t an advance in production. It hinders one&#039;s ability &amp; train of thought.

I&#039;m perfectly content with Ubuntu&#039;s Jaunty, Blender 2.49a, Gimp, and AutoSketch. 
Providing they are optimized to their &lt;b&gt; fullest potential! &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than redesigning the wheel, why not take this great talent and improve on current distro&#039;s &amp; software. </p>
<p>When one has to keep switching os&#039;s and programs such as blender undergo a complete overhaul, how is one to keep his/her sanity? This isn&#039;t an advance in production. It hinders one&#039;s ability &amp; train of thought.</p>
<p>I&#039;m perfectly content with Ubuntu&#039;s Jaunty, Blender 2.49a, Gimp, and AutoSketch.<br />
Providing they are optimized to their <b> fullest potential! </b></p>
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		<title>By: Raphael K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raphael K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, thank you so much.

i&#039;m looking forward to solve this issue, i really apreciate your project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, thank you so much.</p>
<p>i&#039;m looking forward to solve this issue, i really apreciate your project!</p>
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		<title>By: openartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>openartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;please if you know something about it…
jou can join the discussion here:
http://openartist.lefora.com/2009/06/27/nvidia-driver-problems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;please if you know something about it…<br />
jou can join the discussion here:<br />
<a href="http://openartist.lefora.com/2009/06/27/nvidia-driver-problems" rel="nofollow">http://openartist.lefora.com/2009/06/27/nvidia-driver-problems</a></p>
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		<title>By: RaphaelKox</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaphaelKox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh sorry, i wasn&#039;t clear.

in fact what, it is having troble with my videoboard ...

you know if it will work fine with a GeForce 6600 LE?

thanks for the keyboar advice, its fine now!

now the only thing is the video.

i installed it manually, and then as it dont work fine, by ENVY, but not blender nor the desktop effects could be initialized..

please if you know something about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sorry, i wasn&#039;t clear.</p>
<p>in fact what, it is having troble with my videoboard &#8230;</p>
<p>you know if it will work fine with a GeForce 6600 LE?</p>
<p>thanks for the keyboar advice, its fine now!</p>
<p>now the only thing is the video.</p>
<p>i installed it manually, and then as it dont work fine, by ENVY, but not blender nor the desktop effects could be initialized..</p>
<p>please if you know something about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: openartist</title>
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		<dc:creator>openartist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; the only thing that is not working is blender, it just open the window and then close.
have you tried starting it from commandline? update via repository? blender should definitely work.


&gt;it also keep messing with my keyboard layout
yeah there is something uncool going on. as a workaround you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(most conveniently via &quot;ControlCenter&gt;Special&gt; edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf&quot; launcher) and add or alter these lines:

Section &quot;InputDevice&quot;
	Identifier	&quot;Generic Keyboard&quot;
	Driver		&quot;kbd&quot;
	Option		&quot;XkbRules&quot;	&quot;xorg&quot;
	Option		&quot;XkbModel&quot;	&quot;pc105&quot;
	Option		&quot;XkbLayout&quot;	&quot;de&quot;
	Option		&quot;XkbVariant&quot;	&quot;nodeadkeys&quot;
EndSection</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; the only thing that is not working is blender, it just open the window and then close.<br />
have you tried starting it from commandline? update via repository? blender should definitely work.</p>
<p>&gt;it also keep messing with my keyboard layout<br />
yeah there is something uncool going on. as a workaround you could edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf<br />
(most conveniently via &#034;ControlCenter&gt;Special&gt; edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf&#034; launcher) and add or alter these lines:</p>
<p>Section &#034;InputDevice&#034;<br />
	Identifier	&#034;Generic Keyboard&#034;<br />
	Driver		&#034;kbd&#034;<br />
	Option		&#034;XkbRules&#034;	&#034;xorg&#034;<br />
	Option		&#034;XkbModel&#034;	&#034;pc105&#034;<br />
	Option		&#034;XkbLayout&#034;	&#034;de&#034;<br />
	Option		&#034;XkbVariant&#034;	&#034;nodeadkeys&#034;<br />
EndSection</p>
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		<title>By: RAphaelKox</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAphaelKox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Installed it today but....

the only thing that is not working is blender, it just open the window and then close.
anyone having the same problem?

it also keep messing with my keyboard layout

if anyone have the same problem or know a solution please help me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Installed it today but&#8230;.</p>
<p>the only thing that is not working is blender, it just open the window and then close.<br />
anyone having the same problem?</p>
<p>it also keep messing with my keyboard layout</p>
<p>if anyone have the same problem or know a solution please help me&#8230;</p>
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