Comments on: New Custom Weight Range Visualization and, Multi Modifiers http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/ Fresh Blender News, Every Day Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:06:38 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jens http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-230392 Jens Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:33:22 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-230392 @Tynach: Sorry, for me the Nodse gui is near to catastrophe. Look at Werkkzeug for a clever way to present such. @Tynach: Sorry, for me the Nodse gui is near to catastrophe. Look at Werkkzeug for a clever way to present such.

]]> By: sea http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-229034 sea Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:24:23 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-229034 a custom weight range is handy if you're looking for errant really low values, or values that aren't quite 100%. if you adjust the ramp so that its black at 0%, white at 10%, and white at 100% (ie you make a short fast ramp for the first 10%), you can see low values that you probably mis-painted clearly. Similarly for the 90%-100% range, or any given range you want to clamp and look at closer. In maya you set this with the min/max values in the paint editor, very useful. a custom weight range is handy if you're looking for errant really low values, or values that aren't quite 100%. if you adjust the ramp so that its black at 0%, white at 10%, and white at 100% (ie you make a short fast ramp for the first 10%), you can see low values that you probably mis-painted clearly. Similarly for the 90%-100% range, or any given range you want to clamp and look at closer. In maya you set this with the min/max values in the paint editor, very useful.

]]> By: Kernon http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226996 Kernon Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:14:17 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226996 @ilobmirt Correct me if I'm wrong but, I think you can already do that by using a texture to control the velocity of the particles. Maybe using an animated texture would control the length of the hair strands over time? @ilobmirt
Correct me if I'm wrong but, I think you can already do that by using a texture to control the velocity of the particles. Maybe using an animated texture would control the length of the hair strands over time?

]]> By: ilobmirt tenk http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226964 ilobmirt tenk Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:11:58 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226964 I'm still waiting for animated weightmaps ever since I came into blender3d around a year ago. Does this new feature mean I can have a weightmap value transition from 0 ->1 over a period of time? If so, yay =^_^= I have been dying for this feature. This feature would be great for special effects like growing the hair on a werewolf or turning a character into jello >:3 If not, then I'll have to stick to my poor python writing skillz :P I'm still waiting for animated weightmaps ever since I came into blender3d around a year ago.
Does this new feature mean I can have a weightmap value transition from 0 ->1 over a period of time?
If so, yay =^_^= I have been dying for this feature. This feature would be great for special effects like growing the hair on a werewolf or turning a character into jello >:3
If not, then I'll have to stick to my poor python writing skillz :P

]]> By: PapaSmurf http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226734 PapaSmurf Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:32:37 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226734 Poor Maya users. I would find shades of gray to be really hard to discern. Maybe they could export their models to Blender for weight painting. Oh, wait, a lot of Maya users already use Blender for modeling, so they dont have to export until after its weight-painted. They will like that. I have a modern video card, kinda, and I think it would be very cool to have alpha as an effect on the display of the mesh as well as color...you could literally see the effects of the importance/strength of the whatever. Paint more of an effect and literally more of the mesh comes into view. Poor Maya users. I would find shades of gray to be really hard to discern. Maybe they could export their models to Blender for weight painting. Oh, wait, a lot of Maya users already use Blender for modeling, so they dont have to export until after its weight-painted. They will like that.

I have a modern video card, kinda, and I think it would be very cool to have alpha as an effect on the display of the mesh as well as color…you could literally see the effects of the importance/strength of the whatever. Paint more of an effect and literally more of the mesh comes into view.

]]> By: Tynach http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226603 Tynach Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:14:00 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226603 The current node GUI is fine. No, this would be like the Outliner. However, I can't seem to figure out how to use the "modifier tree." By the way, Jaco seems to have the most up-to-date build, right there on top. The current node GUI is fine.

No, this would be like the Outliner.

However, I can't seem to figure out how to use the "modifier tree."

By the way, Jaco seems to have the most up-to-date build, right there on top.

]]> By: Jens http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226569 Jens Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:59:38 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226569 So the modifier stack basically gets a modifier graph (tree)? Like the node system (but hopefully not a different GUI there again - even if the node GUI is not that good another additional GUI concept would be a catastrophe). So the modifier stack basically gets a modifier graph (tree)? Like the node system (but hopefully not a different GUI there again – even if the node GUI is not that good another additional GUI concept would be a catastrophe).

]]> By: Mike http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226450 Mike Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:19:30 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226450 Yes you could substitute blue's normal .0-.25 or whatever range with orange, PapaSmurf. While I'm unsure of the motivation behind the new preference, it could be for the color-blind. But more likely, this is preference, not necessity. Maya users usually paint their weights with just Black and White, and would feel more at home painting weights on Blender. While it might lead to confusion when sharing each others work, you can always figure out the actual weight by selecting the verts and looking on the info panel. I'm not sure of the Alpha effect - but I have a feeling it'll become transparent on a system with a newer videocard than mine :) Yes you could substitute blue's normal .0-.25 or whatever range with orange, PapaSmurf.

While I'm unsure of the motivation behind the new preference, it could be for the color-blind.
But more likely, this is preference, not necessity. Maya users usually paint their weights with just Black and White,
and would feel more at home painting weights on Blender. While it might lead to confusion when sharing each others work, you can always figure out the actual weight by selecting the verts and looking on the info panel.

I'm not sure of the Alpha effect – but I have a feeling it'll become transparent on a system with a newer videocard than mine :)

]]> By: PapaSmurf http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226401 PapaSmurf Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:05:49 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226401 For those new to Blender, Weight painting is documented in the User Manual here: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Manual/Weight_Paint Now I have some questions: 1. Does this just change the colors used to represent 0.0 through 1.0? So, instead of Blue you can use Orange, and so Orange on your monitor means 0.0 influence? So, if you are colorblind to some color, you can remap it. Is this the reason for this enhancement? The alternative is that you've expanded the range or changed the range of the weight paint to match the colorband, possibly omitting or reversing values... 2. I read that the colorband is not saved with the actual blend file, but is a user-instance thing, Therefore, if two people download the same .blend file (e.g. Mancandy), 0.0 on my machine may show as blue, but on another machine with a different default it may be green. Correct? The caution would be when diagnosing problems and getting help, it's a preliminary question to ask. 3. Does the alpha setting for the color have any effect on the visual display? For those new to Blender, Weight painting is documented in the User Manual here: http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Manual/Weight_Paint

Now I have some questions: 1. Does this just change the colors used to represent 0.0 through 1.0? So, instead of Blue you can use Orange, and so Orange on your monitor means 0.0 influence? So, if you are colorblind to some color, you can remap it. Is this the reason for this enhancement? The alternative is that you've expanded the range or changed the range of the weight paint to match the colorband, possibly omitting or reversing values…

2. I read that the colorband is not saved with the actual blend file, but is a user-instance thing, Therefore, if two people download the same .blend file (e.g. Mancandy), 0.0 on my machine may show as blue, but on another machine with a different default it may be green. Correct? The caution would be when diagnosing problems and getting help, it's a preliminary question to ask.

3. Does the alpha setting for the color have any effect on the visual display?

]]> By: inazuma http://www.blendernation.com/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/comment-page-1/#comment-226276 inazuma Sun, 30 Dec 2007 09:13:03 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/12/30/new-custom-weight-range-visualization-and-multi-modifiers/#comment-226276 That looks sweet! "What the "multi modifier" does is deforming the model with both modifiers seperately - with the same input - and then mix the result with a weight group." I'm curious if we're looking at some boolean-types to blend the modifiers in the future... I wonder how this is impacting peach and the awesome peach "fuzz"? Man, I can't believe March is just 3 months away! It's got to be pretty intense at the institute right now. Good luck guys! After seeing that you made 3dTotal and seeing the image for "Bolt" - it's really encouraging to see the work coming out of this. Can't wait to see what's in store for 2.5. K That looks sweet!

"What the "multi modifier" does is deforming the model with both modifiers seperately – with the same input – and then mix the result with a weight group."

I'm curious if we're looking at some boolean-types to blend the modifiers in the future…

I wonder how this is impacting peach and the awesome peach "fuzz"?

Man, I can't believe March is just 3 months away! It's got to be pretty intense at the institute right now.

Good luck guys! After seeing that you made 3dTotal and seeing the image for "Bolt" – it's really encouraging to see the work coming out of this. Can't wait to see what's in store for 2.5.

K

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