Comments on: Libre Graphics Meeting 2008 http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/ Fresh Blender News, Every Day Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:08:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tomas http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-309347 Tomas Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:28:50 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-309347 @A blender User If I might point out, many large USA based companies are large supporters of open source efforts (SUN, IBM, HP come to mind). If you add in Colleges and Universities (MIt, Stanford, UC Berkley, etc..) they also contribute to a large number of open-source efforts. To say the majority of the USA populace is against open-source I think is being pretty harsh. I will grant you that many people in the USA are ill-informed about what open-source is and means but I don't think that means that they are against it. (Given we are home to the great evil which is Micro$oft) but that doesn't mean we are against open-source. I for one use Linux as my primary operating system both at work and at home and do much to inform other people about it and all the great open-source software out there. I've also been promoting blender as much as possible as a true replacement for Maya and 3DS max (did I mention I live in the USA). One big problem that many people run into here in the US (which makes it seem like open-source is bad) is all the problems we face being in a country where companies that are against open-source ( or at least see it as a threat ) try to enforce their claims on intellectual property (patents and the like). @born I also wish I could be at the Libre Graphics meeting in Poland. For now I will continue to gather support for Blender locally and see If I can't get a user group together. Who knows, maybe if enough blender user groups get started in the US (and anywhere else that can) we can all get together somewhere in the states or canada at some time in the future and promote all things open? I live in MIchigan and I have seen someone on the blender forums try to get a blender user group together so maybe the discussion of such a thing would be best done there. Just my $0.02 (which might be about 0.01 euros by now). @A blender User
If I might point out, many large USA based companies are large supporters of open source efforts (SUN, IBM, HP come to mind). If you add in Colleges and Universities (MIt, Stanford, UC Berkley, etc..) they also contribute to a large number of open-source efforts. To say the majority of the USA populace is against open-source I think is being pretty harsh. I will grant you that many people in the USA are ill-informed about what open-source is and means but I don’t think that means that they are against it. (Given we are home to the great evil which is Micro$oft) but that doesn’t mean we are against open-source.

I for one use Linux as my primary operating system both at work and at home and do much to inform other people about it and all the great open-source software out there. I’ve also been promoting blender as much as possible as a true replacement for Maya and 3DS max (did I mention I live in the USA).

One big problem that many people run into here in the US (which makes it seem like open-source is bad) is all the problems we face being in a country where companies that are against open-source ( or at least see it as a threat ) try to enforce their claims on intellectual property (patents and the like).

@born
I also wish I could be at the Libre Graphics meeting in Poland. For now I will continue to gather support for Blender locally and see If I can’t get a user group together. Who knows, maybe if enough blender user groups get started in the US (and anywhere else that can) we can all get together somewhere in the states or canada at some time in the future and promote all things open?

I live in MIchigan and I have seen someone on the blender forums try to get a blender user group together so maybe the discussion of such a thing would be best done there.

Just my $0.02 (which might be about 0.01 euros by now).

]]> By: Pawel http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-307058 Pawel Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:01:51 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-307058 There is that impression that everything in the US has to be paid for and patented. Maybe there's a fear Open Source is a kind of communism :). Of course, that doesn't go for all people, it's mainly the companies which influence the government, but there has to be some national support for that to happen. Also I think in Europe THAT is feared as a kind of totalitarianism. Maybe because Americans have never been under a totalitarian regime, some of them don't see the dangers in their lives (potentially) being dictated by huge powerful companies. Open Source is a possibility to "opt out" of this monopolistic system, unless patent-supporting laws kill this possibility. I devoutly hope this will never happen in Europe. There is that impression that everything in the US has to be paid for and patented. Maybe there’s a fear Open Source is a kind of communism :). Of course, that doesn’t go for all people, it’s mainly the companies which influence the government, but there has to be some national support for that to happen. Also I think in Europe THAT is feared as a kind of totalitarianism. Maybe because Americans have never been under a totalitarian regime, some of them don’t see the dangers in their lives (potentially) being dictated by huge powerful companies. Open Source is a possibility to “opt out” of this monopolistic system, unless patent-supporting laws kill this possibility. I devoutly hope this will never happen in Europe.

]]> By: DramaKing http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-306536 DramaKing Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:53:06 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-306536 @Rakunko I think it's unfair to say that the U.S. is against Open Source. It's probably the commercial companies and regulations that give that impression. @Rakunko I think it’s unfair to say that the U.S. is against Open Source. It’s probably the commercial companies and regulations that give that impression.

]]> By: Born http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-305068 Born Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:23:06 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-305068 @ A blender user.... I am a North American and find your comments both offensive and ill-informed. I am sure every culture and country around the world has mindless and arrogant people. Wherever you are from, based on your comments, you are clearly of this breed yourself, and would make a fine candidate to represent the very thing you write about me, my continent, my culture, my people. This forum is about things Blender, and BlenderNation is a great resource for those around the world that love Blender, CG, and the arts, not a platform to launch racial views. So..... about the Libre Graphics meeting in Poland... wish I could be there! Posted by a proud Canadian. @ A blender user…. I am a North American and find your comments both offensive and ill-informed. I am sure every culture and country around the world has mindless and arrogant people. Wherever you are from, based on your comments, you are clearly of this breed yourself, and would make a fine candidate to represent the very thing you write about me, my continent, my culture, my people.

This forum is about things Blender, and BlenderNation is a great resource for those around the world that love Blender, CG, and the arts, not a platform to launch racial views.

So….. about the Libre Graphics meeting in Poland… wish I could be there!

Posted by a proud Canadian.

]]> By: RH2 http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-305044 RH2 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 23:02:53 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-305044 Sorry about the double post.... Sorry about the double post….

]]> By: RH2 http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-305027 RH2 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:52:08 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-305027 90% of North America's population is somewhere around 270million people. Thats still a significant amount. to say all 270,000,000 people are against open source is a little inaccurate. (you made your remarks slightly less unbelievable by having that 10% discount) Some of them(NORTHAmericans) just don't care about open source or haven't heard of it. ---YET---- hopefully Blender Will change that! And I also want to see increased blender activity inside the USA. Don't get me wrong, Its great that this stuff happens "other places" in other countries. And about the Libre Graphics Meeting 2008: Awesome! too bad we cant get there without an aircraft. too bad, we seldom get a blender(anything) in this region of the U.S.A. 90% of North America’s population is somewhere around 270million people. Thats still a significant amount. to say all 270,000,000 people are against open source is a little inaccurate.
(you made your remarks slightly less unbelievable by having that 10% discount)

Some of them(NORTHAmericans) just don’t care about open source or haven’t heard of it.
—YET—-
hopefully Blender Will change that!

And I also want to see increased blender activity inside the USA. Don’t get me wrong, Its great that this stuff happens “other places” in other countries.

And about the Libre Graphics Meeting 2008: Awesome!

too bad we cant get there without an aircraft.
too bad, we seldom get a blender(anything) in this region of the U.S.A.

]]> By: RH2 http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-305024 RH2 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:49:48 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-305024 90% of North America's population is somewhere around 270million people. Thats still a significant amount. to say all 270,000,000 people are against open source is a little inaccurate. (you made your remarks slightly less unbelievable by having that 10% discount) Some of them(NORTHAmericans) just don't care about open source or haven't heard of it. ---YET---- hopefully Blender Will change that! And I also want to see increased blender activity inside the USA. Don't get me wrong, Its great that this stuff happens "other places" in other countries. "All of u think that your country is the center of the world… maybe thats why u dont understand it." --A blender User-- Are you saying most (NORTH) Americans demand to be the "center" of attention? And about the Libre Graphics Meeting 2008: Awesome! too bad we cant get there without an aircraft. too bad, we seldom get a blender(anything) in this region of the U.S.A. 90% of North America’s population is somewhere around 270million people. Thats still a significant amount. to say all 270,000,000 people are against open source is a little inaccurate.
(you made your remarks slightly less unbelievable by having that 10% discount)

Some of them(NORTHAmericans) just don’t care about open source or haven’t heard of it.
—YET—-
hopefully Blender Will change that!

And I also want to see increased blender activity inside the USA. Don’t get me wrong, Its great that this stuff happens “other places” in other countries.

“All of u think that your country is the center of the world… maybe thats why u dont understand it.” –A blender User–
Are you saying most (NORTH) Americans demand to be the “center” of attention?

And about the Libre Graphics Meeting 2008: Awesome!
too bad we cant get there without an aircraft.
too bad, we seldom get a blender(anything) in this region of the U.S.A.

]]> By: ByronK http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-304402 ByronK Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:50:34 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-304402 @A blender User, Thanks! @A blender User, Thanks!

]]> By: A blender User http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-304396 A blender User Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:39:27 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-304396 ByronK: yep.. u are right.. not every of you.. sorry, my mistake.... but the 90% of you... anyway... Cheers ByronK: yep.. u are right.. not every of you.. sorry, my mistake…. but the 90% of you… anyway…

Cheers

]]> By: ByronK http://www.blendernation.com/libre-graphics-meeting-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-304362 ByronK Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:46:21 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3908#comment-304362 @ A blender User : I do not agree that everyone in the USA thinks that we are the center of the world. I don't believe that. I appreciate the international community. This goes especially for the Blender World. I agree that many of us here, are not well informed of the world outside our borders, but that is not all of us. My hope in creating the Kingsport's First International Digital Art Show last December was to create more appreciation of the world at large and hopefully to create links to international artists. I cannot change what others do, but would like to lead my life as an example of love, respect, understanding, tolerance, and peace. @ A blender User : I do not agree that everyone in the USA thinks that we are the center of the world. I don’t believe that. I appreciate the international community. This goes especially for the Blender World. I agree that many of us here, are not well informed of the world outside our borders, but that is not all of us. My hope in creating the Kingsport’s First International Digital Art Show last December was to create more appreciation of the world at large and hopefully to create links to international artists. I cannot change what others do, but would like to lead my life as an example of love, respect, understanding, tolerance, and peace.

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