Comments on: Kerkythea Renderer going commercial

By: Free Pirate

Free Pirate — Thu, 21 May 2009 19:05:17 +0000

Your talks are demagogics. It's not interesting for me. If you'll feel relief, you can think that you've won.
But I'm truly thinking that you are outsider, who like to have useless talks. There are nothing to debate. Kerky going commercial. I think there are many pure commercial renders and you and Kerky with Kerky developers may come together to f**ck yourself, I really don't care. Is it clear, or you want to thresh over old straw? Go on, but I have much more interest things to do (if you interested in my contributions etc. so much, I'll tell you a word in one's ear – I am a translator. And writer. I write and translate technical literature and documentation. Anyway, forget me. Think about your life and do things, which are more interest than to gab)

By: Pirate hunter

Pirate hunter — Thu, 21 May 2009 16:52:10 +0000

"But it is software market, which tells that Kerky is not number one renderer in both freeware or commercial categories. Facts tells much more better than mine or your words."
Honestly don't understand your point, no one has caimed or even tried to hint that Kerkythea in number one in popularity. It would be interesting to see that market study you are referring – mind to share the facts? Besides Kerkythea is not in commercial category and Thea is not at the market yet. Looking at Kerkythe website, statistics at the download section do tell that latest version have got 280759 downloads (Win+mac+linux). That does give a rough estimate of the popularity, perhaps you dig some download statistics of latest version of some other freeware/free renderes. I can understand your point of free software – but honestly that hardly makes a freeware software useless. Have you personally done anything with available Lux sourse ;)

By: Free Pirate

Free Pirate — Thu, 21 May 2009 10:09:41 +0000

It's logical that developer will actively work on the commercial version and less time will remain on free.
Time will tell, who was right.
By the way, although I'm not a fanatic, I like to use free software, not freeware. And, truly I've never need to worry about Sun pool caustics, as thousands of modelers all over the world. So, I guess you've been discovered uncommon feature in Kerky, which haven't implemented in unbiased renderers, and want to twist the truth and put Kerky in a favorable light. But it is software market, which tells that Kerky is not number one renderer in both freeware or commercial categories. Facts tells much more better than mine or your words.

By: Pirate hunter

Pirate hunter — Wed, 20 May 2009 22:56:20 +0000

Giannis or anyone from Kerkythea or Thea developement has never said "Unlike Indigo a free version will stil be available, although it will not be as actively developed anymore." nor "Kerkythea Renderer going commercial" all that crap is pure imagination from other part – personally that almost sounds like that someone wants intentionally twist the truth.

Giannis wrote: "And what about Kerkythea itself? We certainly won't abandon Kerkythea, our "render buddy". Most probably though, the shift in priorities will have an impact for the next updates, delaying them further. On the other hand, some related Kerkythea issues will be improved, particularly the integration with modelers (since exporters can be reused). And of course, there will be some long-promised features, that now make their appearance in Thea Render, but will also become available in a next Kerkythea edition."

Naturally there is some affect to Kerkythea developement, but the little I know of this, the developement is far from stopped.

btw… do you happen to know how many unbiased renderer can resolve Sun pool caustics?

By: Free Pirate

Free Pirate — Wed, 20 May 2009 16:21:16 +0000

Lol, man, I'm not going to feed the troll.
Read attentievly, second sentence:
"Unlike Indigo a free version will stil be available, although it will not be as actively developed anymore."
So, as theirs spokes in my country: "Don't fart in a puddle". And read above, not only last post.

By: Pirate hunter

Pirate hunter — Wed, 20 May 2009 08:49:42 +0000

Bold words Free Pirate, mind to give us a show how you have contributed to the blender community. FYI, if you have some problems of understanding; The creator of Kerkythea have stated that he will continua developing it and it is available as free as it always has been – I really don't see a problem with that. There simply is no other freeware renderer that can do same as Kerkythea. From opensource field, Lux do promise a lot – but does it deliver before authors/users will get bored and find something new to play with.

By: max

max — Tue, 19 May 2009 20:01:42 +0000

What, am I the only one who donates nowadays?

By: Free Pirate

Free Pirate — Tue, 19 May 2009 09:35:48 +0000

The Happy Friar
>Nothing wrong with a renderer going commercial either. People need to eat.
What about to become drug dealer? ;)
Anyway, you're right, because Kerky authors can do whatever they want, but I'm thinking that they easily can sink among professional production renderers like RenderMan and others.

grzybu
Ok, your point is clear. But the deal is that you name Kerkythea free. It never was free, just freeware.
authors' bad is that they will not develop or maintain freeware version. It makes Kerky useless… For example, Yaf(a)ray is more likely for personal use.
Also I'm not fanatic too, but I have windows only under VM and only for business reasons. If there never was Windows, I would be so happy ;) It's really bad OS for me.

By: grzybu

grzybu — Tue, 19 May 2009 07:49:08 +0000

No, I'm not "same author".
I just said that there is no other such fast free renderer as Kerkythea.
Me myself, and we as small studio are making some money using Kerkytha and and hope to make even more money with Thea when it will be released.
I would like to use free software for rendering in future, but there is no real alternative for now. If render speed is critical then you just don't have time to use unbiased renders for animation.
To be honest we didn't found any commercial alternative to Kerkythea (vray is close, really close) since we have very limited found to spend.
I prefer to spend few hundred euro for software than spend many thousands for additional hardware which allow me to render faster using free software.
I love blender and I really hope luxrender some day will be real alternative for Thea. It, for sure, can be such alternative if you are doing stills or have really huge render farm. But we are doing HD animations and we don't have huge render farm.
That's my point.
I use blender since about 2002 and linux even longer. I really like free software, but I'm not fanatic. I even have windows on my netbook ;)

By: The Happy Friar

The Happy Friar — Tue, 19 May 2009 02:17:31 +0000

GPL doesn't require you distribute code. It only requires if you distribute the executable. There's nothing illegal with someone re-working Blender to their preference & never releasing it.

Nothing wrong with a renderer going commercial either. People need to eat. For a bunch of people who supposedly love using Blender you'd think you'd be happy someone would love it enough to quit what they're doing & dedicate part of their life to making something for it.