Comments on: Google SoC Progress Report: SkyGen http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/ Fresh Blender News, Every Day Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:36:40 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: joeri http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-9232 joeri Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:15:49 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-9232 @Auria "If you don’t think a skygen is necessary… what are you complaining about? " A faulty useless because-it's-no-good skygen is not necessary. That's what the complaints are about. "features that are a few weeks-old can’t be photorealistic…" As I understand it's a dummy feature anyway. "..., but they [current sky] are not evident for non-advanced user." So who cares if it look good or not, right? @Auria
"If you don’t think a skygen is necessary… what are you complaining about? "
A faulty useless because-it's-no-good skygen is not necessary. That's what the complaints are about.

"features that are a few weeks-old can’t be photorealistic…"

As I understand it's a dummy feature anyway.
"…, but they [current sky] are not evident for non-advanced user."
So who cares if it look good or not, right?

]]> By: Coby http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-9000 Coby Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:44:51 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-9000 All I can say is SWEET! For Blender, this is a big step. I've been wanting to make better looking clouds for a long time and also realistic animate-able skies for that matter. I cheer you on Dmitriy Mazovka! All I can say is SWEET! For Blender, this is a big step. I've been wanting to make better looking clouds for a long time and also realistic animate-able skies for that matter. I cheer you on Dmitriy Mazovka!

]]> By: mrCarnivore http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8974 mrCarnivore Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:23:58 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8974 Clouds are very difficult to make. I guess it's not fair to the developer, to judge his work by the not-yet-photerealistic-looking-clouds. Whwat I do find very impressive and extremely helpful, especially when creating videos with blender, is the sky-generator itself. Without the clouds it is still very helpful and looks quite realistic! Clouds are very difficult to make. I guess it's not fair to the developer, to judge his work by the not-yet-photerealistic-looking-clouds. Whwat I do find very impressive and extremely helpful, especially when creating videos with blender, is the sky-generator itself. Without the clouds it is still very helpful and looks quite realistic!

]]> By: toni Grappa http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8941 toni Grappa Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:15:58 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8941 What about the changing colours of the sun during its way through the sky depending on hour, month and place. Is there anything planed? Toni Grappa What about the changing colours of the sun during its way through the sky depending on hour, month and place. Is there anything planed?

Toni Grappa

]]> By: Auria http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8933 Auria Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:37:34 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8933 If you don't think a skygen is necessary... what are you complaining about? just dont use it features that are a few weeks-old can't be photorealistic... if you intend to make the video of a sky it certainly isn't photorealistic but it will be a nicer background than the default plain blue, for sure. If you don't think a skygen is necessary… what are you complaining about? just dont use it

features that are a few weeks-old can't be photorealistic… if you intend to make the video of a sky it certainly isn't photorealistic but it will be a nicer background than the default plain blue, for sure.

]]> By: QEDqubit http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8916 QEDqubit Wed, 23 Aug 2006 13:21:03 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8916 so many people seem to be missing the point(s). blender is uncomparable. and 'easy' 'one button' solutions to generating a sky or a horse or whatever geometry, is nessacary because not everything made with an animation stuidio is meant to be an artfull still. there are people who'd like to make their own crappy toons with only slightly more quality than 'southpark' hence a generating procedure to throw in some sky should not be criticized, i wonder if those are against 'make human', or the 3 tree generators. there should come car, building, and cityblock generators as well,just so you'd be able to spend your time on the specific something yure focussing on. imagine: yuve just made a great model, but the (lack of)surroundings break down the point you're trying to make like race car on emty plane MOST importantly, his generator is based on CELLULAR AUTOMATA i hope THAT can be used for many other things in (game)blender if he gets THAT functional, i'm happy even COG's tutorial sky's have some 'random' generation when you tweak the particle generators emitter settings to your likings. also it sure isn't going to be a one button solution, YOU have the power of choice (using at least more than 8 buttons) to make the skies turn out the way you want AND modify 'em l8r ! L8R ! so many people seem to be missing the point(s).
blender is uncomparable.
and 'easy' 'one button' solutions to generating a sky or a horse or whatever geometry, is nessacary because not everything made with an animation stuidio is meant to be an artfull still.
there are people who'd like to make their own crappy toons with only slightly more quality than 'southpark'
hence a generating procedure to throw in some sky should not be criticized, i wonder if those are against 'make human', or the 3 tree generators.
there should come car, building, and cityblock generators as well,just so you'd be able to spend your time on the specific something yure focussing on.
imagine: yuve just made a great model, but the (lack of)surroundings break down the point you're trying to make
like race car on emty plane
MOST importantly, his generator is based on CELLULAR AUTOMATA
i hope THAT can be used for many other things in (game)blender
if he gets THAT functional, i'm happy
even COG's tutorial sky's have some 'random' generation when
you tweak the particle generators emitter settings to your likings.
also it sure isn't going to be a one button solution, YOU have the power of choice (using at least more than 8 buttons)
to make the skies turn out the way you want AND modify 'em l8r !

L8R !

]]> By: Corsairr http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8913 Corsairr Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:57:09 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8913 Stop guys baling each other out ! Have you forgotten why we are all here ? Is it for encouraging Blender development ? Both side are right, the current results are not yet photo-realistic, but they are already pretty good work (and remind it is not finished !) For those who think there is no need of Skygen ... they can think it, but remind that you are not alone and it seems that most part of the community wants it. Keep on this way Dmitriy, you are on the right track ! Corsairr Stop guys baling each other out !

Have you forgotten why we are all here ? Is it for encouraging Blender development ?

Both side are right, the current results are not yet photo-realistic, but they are already pretty good work (and remind it is not finished !)

For those who think there is no need of Skygen … they can think it, but remind that you are not alone and it seems that most part of the community wants it.

Keep on this way Dmitriy, you are on the right track !

Corsairr

]]> By: Hexa http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8911 Hexa Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:09:35 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8911 Maybe old news to some, but I found these on the net: http://schpok.net/research/purpl/gasmodel/index.html http://schpok.net/research/purpl/clouds/index.html Maybe old news to some, but I found these on the net:

http://schpok.net/research/purpl/gasmodel/index.html
http://schpok.net/research/purpl/clouds/index.html

]]> By: Gunnar Stahl http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8908 Gunnar Stahl Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:09:51 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8908 Ji JoOngle, the ones that blew my mind were in the BA-thread: "http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=73280", posted by Dani (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showpost.php?p=670738&postcount=5) Maybe for someone else these pictures look like nothing. But for me they contain beauty. And for this "two kinds of people" part: I did not write this to point my finger. It was just to show a point. Somehow the direction this thread was taking disturbed me. Yt, Gunnar Ji JoOngle,
the ones that blew my mind were in the BA-thread: "http://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?t=73280", posted by Dani (http://blenderartists.org/forum/showpost.php?p=670738&postcount=5)

Maybe for someone else these pictures look like nothing. But for me they contain beauty.

And for this "two kinds of people" part: I did not write this to point my finger. It was just to show a point. Somehow the direction this thread was taking disturbed me.

Yt,

Gunnar

]]> By: JoOngle http://www.blendernation.com/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/comment-page-1/#comment-8907 JoOngle Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:47:37 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2006/08/22/google-soc-progress-report-skygen/#comment-8907 Gunnar wrote: "So if the skygen turns out to be of use, then use it. From the screenshots that I have seen it is already pretty mindblowing." I'd love to see those "mind-blowing" screenshots you've seen. Links please? Gunnar wrote: "There are always two kind of people: The one kind theoretizes about features, technics, stuff and whatnot. And the other kind actually gets things done, creates beauty, touches your heart." There are two other people to - in a similar category - those who point fingers and tell other people what they are - and those that don't ;) Gunnar wrote:
"So if the skygen turns out to be of use, then use it. From the screenshots that I have seen it is already pretty mindblowing."

I'd love to see those "mind-blowing" screenshots you've seen. Links please?

Gunnar wrote:
"There are always two kind of people: The one kind theoretizes about features, technics, stuff and whatnot. And the other kind actually gets things done, creates beauty, touches your heart."

There are two other people to – in a similar category – those who point fingers and tell other people
what they are – and those that don't ;)

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