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		<title>By: ExiMod</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/blender-render-benchmark-v02/comment-page-1/#comment-339979</link>
		<dc:creator>ExiMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as of today (June 16, 2008) my Xserve G4 Dual 1.33 GHz is average in the benchmark. It is number 1027 of 2055. My 5 year, 4 month old computer is still holding its own at the midway mark. Not bad! Not bad at all! :) 

I&#039;m very grateful to the Blender developers who are continuing to support the PowerPC platform. There are millions of cheap old Macs out there, and folks who can&#039;t afford new hardware are still able to educate themselves thanks to the continued support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as of today (June 16, 2008) my Xserve G4 Dual 1.33 GHz is average in the benchmark. It is number 1027 of 2055. My 5 year, 4 month old computer is still holding its own at the midway mark. Not bad! Not bad at all! :) </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very grateful to the Blender developers who are continuing to support the PowerPC platform. There are millions of cheap old Macs out there, and folks who can&#8217;t afford new hardware are still able to educate themselves thanks to the continued support.</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 19:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says this benchmark is about making animations?
It&#039;s about rendertimes and for rendertimes the graphics card is un-important.
If you want a benchmark on graphics cards you are free to start your own website with your own specs of importance.
But to answer your question; no the graphics card, or any hardware for that matter, are the most important when it comes to making animations: It&#039;s creativity and that does not come out of a box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says this benchmark is about making animations?<br />
It&#8217;s about rendertimes and for rendertimes the graphics card is un-important.<br />
If you want a benchmark on graphics cards you are free to start your own website with your own specs of importance.<br />
But to answer your question; no the graphics card, or any hardware for that matter, are the most important when it comes to making animations: It&#8217;s creativity and that does not come out of a box.</p>
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		<title>By: Dextran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dextran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 10:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, correct me if I am wrong: it is not important what graphisc card you have when it comes to make animations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, correct me if I am wrong: it is not important what graphisc card you have when it comes to make animations?</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 19:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The benchmark is about rendertime, not realtime onscreen drawing. So no, the graphic card is not important for this benchmark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The benchmark is about rendertime, not realtime onscreen drawing. So no, the graphic card is not important for this benchmark.</p>
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		<title>By: Dextran</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/blender-render-benchmark-v02/comment-page-1/#comment-103187</link>
		<dc:creator>Dextran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 14:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the graphic card is not important in the benchmark?????!!!</description>
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		<title>By: marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are the Pentium M&#039;s in the list???? What about all the centrino Notebooks of the last 5 years??!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are the Pentium M&#8217;s in the list???? What about all the centrino Notebooks of the last 5 years??!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Trianon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trianon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 06:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This benchmark test doesn&#039;t use the GPU of you graphics card at all (you would need something like Gelato for that).  So only 100% CPU and memory test, that is if you have enough ram and don&#039;t have to use the harddisk.  I&#039;m using a HP xw4400 workstation (E6600 cpu and 2 Gig ram)  and have a time of 1 min with 2.43 SSE2.  Have done the same test with a Mac Pro (2 dual core Xeon 2.66 GHz and 5 G ram) and found 30 sec needed for the bench.  Was thinking a upgrading to a Quad core QX6700 cpu on my HP but now I have heard Mac is comming with a 2 x quad core 3GHz Xeon !  Don&#039;t think this can be beaten with any single cpu machine ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This benchmark test doesn&#8217;t use the GPU of you graphics card at all (you would need something like Gelato for that).  So only 100% CPU and memory test, that is if you have enough ram and don&#8217;t have to use the harddisk.  I&#8217;m using a HP xw4400 workstation (E6600 cpu and 2 Gig ram)  and have a time of 1 min with 2.43 SSE2.  Have done the same test with a Mac Pro (2 dual core Xeon 2.66 GHz and 5 G ram) and found 30 sec needed for the bench.  Was thinking a upgrading to a Quad core QX6700 cpu on my HP but now I have heard Mac is comming with a 2 x quad core 3GHz Xeon !  Don&#8217;t think this can be beaten with any single cpu machine ?</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 08:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just a noob and I&#039;ve been trying very hard to figure out which computer to buy to do Blender. What I&#039;ve found out is that there&#039;s no way I&#039;ll get a MacBook in their current state. Various benchmark tests at barefeats.com have convinced me of that. I didn&#039;t realize that rendering depended more upon the processor than the graphics card. The MacBook&#039;s Core 2 Duo is excellent, but the Intel GMA 950 GPU really bites. Sure a MacBook can render, but for other graphics intensive uses, forget it.

I think the best option for someone like me who is on a super-tight budget is to build your own PC out of parts from newegg.com and such places. You can build a great Core 2 Duo computer with *two* nice graphics cards running together in SLI mode for a less than a MacBook. And you can get a free *nix OS like Ubuntu. Seems like Blender would be much happier in that environment.

Somewhat unfortunately for me I have Final Cut Pro so I have to have a Mac. Macs are great, but Apple isn&#039;t currenly offering the &quot;prosumer&quot; anything decent in the way of GPUs. I just bought an older 1.33GHz dual G4 an hour ago. No screaming SLI for me, but at least I&#039;ll have a Radeon 9800 Pro (hope Blender and Ubuntu like it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just a noob and I&#8217;ve been trying very hard to figure out which computer to buy to do Blender. What I&#8217;ve found out is that there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;ll get a MacBook in their current state. Various benchmark tests at barefeats.com have convinced me of that. I didn&#8217;t realize that rendering depended more upon the processor than the graphics card. The MacBook&#8217;s Core 2 Duo is excellent, but the Intel GMA 950 GPU really bites. Sure a MacBook can render, but for other graphics intensive uses, forget it.</p>
<p>I think the best option for someone like me who is on a super-tight budget is to build your own PC out of parts from newegg.com and such places. You can build a great Core 2 Duo computer with *two* nice graphics cards running together in SLI mode for a less than a MacBook. And you can get a free *nix OS like Ubuntu. Seems like Blender would be much happier in that environment.</p>
<p>Somewhat unfortunately for me I have Final Cut Pro so I have to have a Mac. Macs are great, but Apple isn&#8217;t currenly offering the &#8220;prosumer&#8221; anything decent in the way of GPUs. I just bought an older 1.33GHz dual G4 an hour ago. No screaming SLI for me, but at least I&#8217;ll have a Radeon 9800 Pro (hope Blender and Ubuntu like it).</p>
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		<title>By: Kernon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kernon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m a PC user so I really know nothing about Macs. Another thing that you might want to consider is that most utilities, patches, etc. that are made available seem to be compatible in the following order of priority:
PC/Linux
Mac

That&#039;s not always true but, it&#039;s the pattern that seems to predominate. IOW, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen something developed with Mac compatibility as the first priority. Eventually, but not first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m a PC user so I really know nothing about Macs. Another thing that you might want to consider is that most utilities, patches, etc. that are made available seem to be compatible in the following order of priority:<br />
PC/Linux<br />
Mac</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not always true but, it&#8217;s the pattern that seems to predominate. IOW, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen something developed with Mac compatibility as the first priority. Eventually, but not first.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;d say it&#039;s definitely a fair comparison. I checked the specs on the chart (what few there are) and looked up the specs of the MacBooks (on lowendmac.com). The plain MacBooks are doing incredibly well with this render. Perhaps they are doing very well at this task, but wouldn&#039;t on others. I wonder how thorough this render is at testing the various processes of a GPU. I can&#039;t do hands-on to find out myself because my computer is currently sick with capacitor plague.

The first MacBook (not Pro) comes in at number 98 at 00:01:26.48. It has a Core 2 Duo running at 2000MHz. It&#039;s doing 2 threads. It has 1024MB PC2-5300 DDR2 RAM. It runs Mac OSX 10.4.8 and Blender 2.43. It&#039;s coming in at number 98 out of 846. A lot of these other systems are real BFGs, too, and the MacBook is holding its own among them. The second MacBook is a similarly configured Core Duo and comes in at number 110. Their GPUs are the supposedly pathetic Intel GMA 950 leeches.

I&#039;m just wondering how this can be. So far it&#039;s changed my mind about wanting a current MacBook. My main reason for my next computer purchase is Blender. Did Apple work with Intel to super fine tune the GMA 950 so that it&#039;s actually decent? It seems to be a real anomaly. Go ahead, check it out for yourself.

Still hope I&#039;m not going to kick myself in the ass for buying a MacBook as a Blender box. Maybe I should wait to see if Jobs will cough up some decent new systems in June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s definitely a fair comparison. I checked the specs on the chart (what few there are) and looked up the specs of the MacBooks (on lowendmac.com). The plain MacBooks are doing incredibly well with this render. Perhaps they are doing very well at this task, but wouldn&#8217;t on others. I wonder how thorough this render is at testing the various processes of a GPU. I can&#8217;t do hands-on to find out myself because my computer is currently sick with capacitor plague.</p>
<p>The first MacBook (not Pro) comes in at number 98 at 00:01:26.48. It has a Core 2 Duo running at 2000MHz. It&#8217;s doing 2 threads. It has 1024MB PC2-5300 DDR2 RAM. It runs Mac OSX 10.4.8 and Blender 2.43. It&#8217;s coming in at number 98 out of 846. A lot of these other systems are real BFGs, too, and the MacBook is holding its own among them. The second MacBook is a similarly configured Core Duo and comes in at number 110. Their GPUs are the supposedly pathetic Intel GMA 950 leeches.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just wondering how this can be. So far it&#8217;s changed my mind about wanting a current MacBook. My main reason for my next computer purchase is Blender. Did Apple work with Intel to super fine tune the GMA 950 so that it&#8217;s actually decent? It seems to be a real anomaly. Go ahead, check it out for yourself.</p>
<p>Still hope I&#8217;m not going to kick myself in the ass for buying a MacBook as a Blender box. Maybe I should wait to see if Jobs will cough up some decent new systems in June.</p>
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