VXF: Burning Woman

Warning: the following article contains violent and disturbing graphics and video.

Francesco Paglia writes:

Hello everybody,

I’d like to share with you the latest job we made for an italian TV SHOW called Amore Criminale on Air April 14 2011 on Rai 3. For who doesn’t know Rai is the main Broadcaster here.

Rai is the main Broadcaster [in Italy]

In brief this show aims to represent the violence that sometimes women experience in their homes. It try to sensibilize those women to help them denounce their condition. Here you can find more about the show.

And now some infos about our tasks!

We were contacted by D4-videoshow, the production company, to help them finding a solution to show a burning woman keeping in mind that:

  1. a TV show has a very thight timeline from shooting to broadcasting;
  2. costs have to stay as low as possible… this is not a feature film;
  3. until the scene is shot you never know how many extra variable you’ll have.

Before starting the production we wanted to make a simple test to verify if we could achieve the wanted goal with our software… I imagine all of you know I’m talking about Blender! ;)

To make stuff more complicated we decided to do it in no more than 3 days to verify if we could do it quickly, to simulate the pressure of the production!

We shot one of our co-worker, our editor, and made this test:

We quickly modeled, rigged, rotoscoped the animation and made the smoke also using the dynamic paint to test the way the smoke could expand. Even if it seems an ugly test it was clear enough we could do it as we want and on time!

So here the production workflow we used:

On set:

  • Keep as much reference as possible to represent the rooms proportion and camera datas,
  • Shot some frame of the actress to model her,
  • Have the actress with a adherent pajamas to reduce clothing problem.

we made around 50 second of animated flames in 10 days!

On our office:

  • As soon as the photos are ready start modeling and rigging the woman
  • As soon as possible build up the reference rooms to make the movement as coherent as possible with the surrounding space
  • As soon as the edit of our scenes is ready start setup any shot and complete the entire workflow:
    • make the breakdown of the scenes and shots
    • prepare the layout with the room, the woman’s digital double and the camera
    • rotoscope the animation
    • clean up the deformation of the body (refine with the sculpt what can’t be achieved with the animation itself)
    • simulate the fire
    • render all the passes
    • compose everything

Here a short clip that demonstrate the rotoscoping workflow

At the end we made around 50 second of animated flames in 10 days! There are other shots I didn’t add in the main clip because there weren’t related to that momentum on the show.

Some other numbers:

  • 4 scenes in different environment / condition
  • 16 shots completed
  • 5 artists working
  • 1 tool developed to speed up the sculpting workflow

Credits
Directed by Maurizio Iannelli
Vfx supervisor and compositing Francesco Paglia
Flame simulation Daniele Casoria, Petru Ciobanu
Rotoscoping animation Guido Alesse
Animation clean up Arianna Molinari

Hope you enjoyed this post and to come back with new exciting projects soon!

Francesco Paglia
Spark DE Production Manager


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  • Blazraidr

    very cool!

    • http://www.blendernation.com Bart Veldhuizen

      Pun intended? ;-)

      • FreeWORK56

        well read the Bible first !  Everything is there Bart !

  • http://www.facebook.com/deadlandchronicles T.E. Mencer

    This horrified me. Terrified me. Disgusted me. Basically, it did the job well. It really saddens me to know that abuse this horrific happens. It’s not just a once in a while thing, but happens more often than it really should.

    Thanks for sharing your pipeline. Good luck!

  • Mailmehiermaar

    Hot stuff!

  • stefantalpalaru

    Interesting effects but the show is terrible, victimizing women for being women and demonizing men for being men. To set the tone they have “Each man kills the thing he loves” as a theme song.

    • spec24

      In this culture?  Shocking!

  • Barz

    Oh my god. Hopefully I don’t watch Rai 3, this Tv show is quite scaring…

  • Tay Ramos

    this is a very serious thing and is very uncomfortable to watch it even if is a very well done animation 

  • VanPelt

    Gosh… Few things I find as terrifying as seeing people ablaze. So, sorry, I didn’t “enjoy” this post. Interesting pipeline and breakdown though.

  • Iceboltstuff

    Looked cartoonish and just bad from the vfx standpoint.If you cant pull the effect in at least somewhat believable fashion, you can always imply things, but that’s “good film-making”, something absent from cheap tv shows. 

    • http://www.blurredmotion.net/ Stephen Thomas

      I agree, the effect doesn’t look good at all, might have been cheaper & more effective for them to have a stuntman actually lit on fire…

      • John D Smith II

         I doubt it! You’d have to pay me pretty d@^& good to set me on fire! I’m betting that stunt would have required a highly paid team including a stunt-woman, firemen, emergency medical crew, stunt director, special low temp flammables, cost of refilling extinguishers. …you get the idea. Blender is most certainly cheaper.  To be honest though, this is done in very poor taste in my opinion. This video is not in anyway representative of the message written by the author above. To be honest I thought this was a cheesy comedy sketch about the Wife’s never-ending nagging and the finally fed-up Husband, straight from a late-night TV show. What with the unbelievably over the top blood and gore and the Husband’s comical faces, this is in NO way a gripping and horrific and sad documentary recreation. I laughed my @$$ off wondering what sick bleeper did this video… well until I read the Caption! I know comedy and tragedy go hand in hand, but… come on! OK I’m done with the cliches. Of course, my girlfriend didn’t think it was very funny… She just watched with a dropped jaw and then coolly said that if I ever set her on fire she’d grab on to me and take me with her!! Peace!

  • Ali_hg

    Video looks like the truth I hope to excel in the next works but do not scare me.OK

  • TFS

    Yay its Star Wars day :)

    May the 4th be with you

  • http://www.charly-studio.com/ Charles HETIER

    ouch. well done but horrible

  • Guest

    Yeah, this is horrible, please I don’t care if it has been done with Blender, I don’t wanna see this crap. 

    • http://www.blendernation.com Bart Veldhuizen

      You don’t have to – I posted a warning.

      • César Eduardo Cárdenas Fuentes

         two, counting the video title

  • Animator32

    Women were born for barbecue :) Let’s get some gasoline at our closest gas station :)

  • Murl1280

    Blender Nation,

    I agree with Guest, I sure don’t like to see this type of violence even if it was made in Blender. Surely you can find something more humane to report on than this…

    • http://www.blendernation.com Bart Veldhuizen

      The article contains a clear warning. It’s your choice to watch the video anyway.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/H3EEHB5WF332GBFBGUYL5D5COA Phil

         I hear ya and don’t want to disagree..  just asking…  if Blender was used to animate a simulation of child sexual abuse would that be OK? I mean it ain’t real and it aint happening. Would we critique the models and movements and ignore content?. If not then why is violence OK?  Serious question.  I guess because we except violence and depictions of violence in our entertainment but not sexual abuse, so showing a burning woman is acceptable by the standards we operate in

        • Lttlemoi

           If someone got stabbed with a knife and died, do you convict the manufacturer for murder? Because the knife was the tool and the stabbing was real.

        • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

          Oh, people, please stop with all the flawed arguments here, guys!  The fact is there ISN’T any simulation of child sexual abuse being shown here, and no one even took things that far.  No one here’s accepting the violence of the content, either.  We are, however, observing how a particular effect was achieved, for content designed to bring attention to the serious issue of domestic violence.

          To even equate this example of work to the likes of simulation of child sexual abuse is outright dishonest reasoning.  If someone animated a simulation of child sexual abuse, I’m pretty damn sure nobody would post it up here–even such TV shows like this one here don’t even show simulations of that nature.  You brought up what wasn’t even called for here–and I’m sorry, but the likes of this documentary video work and the likes of a simulation of child sexual abuse (even if in such a documentary) are apples and oranges.  Whereas a simulation of child sexual abuse if not necessary to get the severity of the point across, this show clearly aimed to necessarily show the severity of a true case of domestic abuse.

          If you’re disturbed by it, GOOD–it was meant to and you clearly have sanity and a conscience.  But we can also separate the reality here and realize this is professionally-employed animation work, too, and learn from it.  You would have a good point if your comparison didn’t miss like it did and if Bart had just sprung this on openly without any fair warning calling for viewer discretion, but you don’t.  This particular article came with a clear warning that the subject and content was violent and graphic in nature, even if simulated.  We’re all old enough to realize both the nature of the content here and the nature of the production side of the content.I can understand your views of not endorsing graphic violence, but no one’s endorsing the depiction of violence, nor is this even a simulation for our entertainment–the production team working on a show wanted to show how they achieved the effects in a professional environment for a show designed to bring attention to the very serious matter and perhaps Bart thought it’d be an topic that just might interest some of us interested in such professional work.

          Perhaps among the hobbyist animators and game developers, there are some interested in realistic applications of Blender work suited for more serious, sobering work.  Some people DO wish to work professional show productions as these, and a rare peek into the workflow of a professional team is invaluable.  And again, it’s not like the producers here didn’t bring attention to the serious content they produced as well–they did, right before sharing their workflow.  Yes, it can do the mind bad to witness depictions of violence, but it does the mind a shame if you can’t not use it to properly discern when something like this is not real, long enough to learn from it–if you want to.  But that’s just the thing: it takes discernment.If any individual is too stupid not to read the clear warning given for this article here, and are too stupid not to heed it, then that’s their faults for getting offended by it.  Any one of us clearly have the choice to ignore this article.  If you find it offensive, move on to the next one and stop trying to find something to be offended about here.  Your fallacious arguments here come off as rather pretentious.

          • Philconite

             Nah in the rush to defend the wrong argument you missed it.  I don’t disagree with showcasing the work.  I had a general question. Mainly…  why do we, as a society, accept portrayals of violence quite readily but by general consensus are opposed to other, equally unreal, depictions. Yeah yada yada with warnings you have a choice whether to view. I chose an extreme example of something else to animate to examine what the arguments would be pro and con. That is the intelligent debate. We all know no such thing was depicted. But going with the premise (yes a central tool of arguing by hypothetical examples) what would the arguments be? For and against. Just to get the ball rolling – somebody suggested “it aint real”  – yeah that applies to both. So really there must be additional reasons. Well anyway.. don’t matter I aint going expend my remaining hours on this.

          • Philconite

             For the record – I wasn’t disturbed by it in the least – I have seen lots of real people running around on fire (Bradford football stadium)  now that was upsetting. A brief animation isnt really that disturbing – I er KNOW it isnt real. I watch many movies containing violence and enjoy them as much as the next guy. No I was just interested in how we function as a society.
            However – a contribution to a serious exploration of domestic violence .. hahahha  er don’t think so. Italian TV is a joke run by a corrupt gangster – sort of where all TV networks go when they are operated strictly for profit. No culture but plenty of bread and circuses. Exciting CGI graphics are designed to appeal and entertain. In this case the enterainment was watching somebody get set alight. Otherwise they could have just done a freeze frame and added a caption – “He burned her”    Imagination would fill in the rest. Anyway…  sure… why not it is a technical account of how it was done. I have no problem about it – I am just interested in the wider questions. I support choice not censorship. But I do reserve the right to deride the insincere justification for a network to air it. hahah  what a crock.

          • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

            Well, now either you just used a poor choice of words there or else you’re saying something that I find quite disturbing, man.  I get what you were trying to say, but perhaps that opening sentence was a poor choice of words.

            I mean, I can distinguish that those special effects were not reality, but that story still did really happen.  I couldn’t help but have the greatest sorrow in my heart for that poor woman, even if I knew that this was just a dramatization.  The very idea of the reality it portray disturbed me, in the right way it was meant to disturb, and maybe not as much as had I saw the real event itself, but still enough to make my stomach feel like it had a bowling bowl in it and to make me shake my head about this crazy world.  Even though I was able to still get some analysis done towards their process for achieving those effect in that dramatization, I wouldn’t say that I “wasn’t disturbed by it in the least.”  I’ve seen a man get shot in reality before–it doesn’t mean I can’t sympathize with a dramatization of a man who in reality got shot.

            As for your concluding point, I would agree with you that a freeze frame would have suffice.  But it is my understanding that the point of the stuff was to bring out the full severity of the issue, to get women to speak up about it before something of that magnitude happened to them.  I’m not very familiar with Italian television, but the indication of this show from what I could see (and from what the writer of the tutorial indicated) is that it was counting on its severity to make a difference.  But I guess if this is just a case of where I really just don’t know corrupt Italian television very well apparently, I could be wrong.

          • Grzesiek

            Note: my comment is very loosely associated with the clip on top. I am able to watch it, though it IS disturbing despite rather funny VFX fire.

            I still can’t understand why people consider some disgusting VFX things better than others. I don’t understand people being disgusted by simulated child abuse, but being entertained by “Saw” type of films. Sexual violence is bad, but guts are OK?

            You can depict someone burning in non-disgusting way. You can make flames believable but the scene not believable. Hollywood films are doing it this way, but this makes those films a bit silly though.

            And fun fact: after many unnecessary warnings I ignore most of them. To know how violent something is I usually have to watch it. But in this case the title says everything. So I don’t understand people who have read the warning, watched the clip and are now whining.

          • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

            Man, I absolutely hate those movies like Saw.  They’re so mindless and I don’t see why some will call it “entertainment.”

      • Zazizizou

        I personally found the warning rather tempting…

  • Guest
  • Muhammad Amir Hamzah

    What the fuck i really watch, really violent! Cool effect thought but….my god…

    • Lttlemoi

       I find it funny that you swear. I always imagined people who swear a lot, also like violent movies.

  • Jurel

    And hopefully no sound in that clip, can you imagine that scene with the screams? I’m sure it would be 8k times more terrible to watch.

    And don’t be a chicken, it’s just a VFX!  first thing I read was the warning…

    • Jurel

      I meant fortunately, instead of hopefully. Sorry!

  • Terencedesu

    Disturbing. Some may critique the quality of the VFX, but it was good enough to bother lots of people here, so they accomplished their goal. For those complaining that it was posted, the warning was very. Lear and obvious.

    • Terencedesu

      Clear and obvious (stupid tiny keyboard on ipod)

  • Asdfsadf

    LMAO at people bitching xD……

    I love it!! It is very cool and I wanna see more!!!

    • michael dawkins

      There is nothing funny about it.

      • Asdfsadf

        Well I’m laughing.

      • Big

         Well, I think the quality is quite laughable. This is done badly, very badly.
        As the article said: “costs have to stay as low as possible… this is not a feature film”. It shows that this was done very cheaply and quickly. So yes, it was funny. Not by subject matter, but how it was made: looks like a very poor C-movie.

        • César Eduardo Cárdenas Fuentes

           a Bollywood movie?

  • Alain

    Please don’t post such violent Bullshit ! We already have enough Violence and war in this world !
    Kind regards
    Alain

    • guest

      Warnings exist for a reason, if you can’t take it, don’t click it.

    • César Eduardo Cárdenas Fuentes

       and what are you doing about it?

  • Animator32

    women are born for barbecue :)  Get your can of gasoline TODAY !     ha ha Bart delete this as fast as you can !

  • Postrock

    That’s weird..you dont see much violence on Rai, and then this? 

  • tom

    Cool down, it´s just a faked video… I don´t like to see such violent stuff, too, but because it “seems” (sorry if I use this word) so violent, it shows that it was made very realistic… Really great work (if you look at the cg part of it).. And in hope to see something less violent the next time…

  • david

    I must say the fire doesn’t look too good. Blender smoke sim is capable of doing a much more realistic fire… this one looks really low res, I can almost see the voxels. Not very pro to be honest… And not a reference to blenders vfx power.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H3EEHB5WF332GBFBGUYL5D5COA Phil

    Not sure why so many people are concerned with the content. Blender is just a tool and this is about techniques.

  • john

    Burn baby burn, lol
    That’s great , Its almost look real.
    But I dont like murder.
    What about ghost rider ? Without murder.

    Is the lady ok? Lol

  • Mehmet

    fire is cool but it is missing lots of smoke in my opinion , If it is burning with that level of wild flames ,It should produce bit more smoke .
    I also do agree that it is not PG13 ,  Male character with his wife beaters on and female has no previous facial wounds etc . Script is little off , could have been much better :)  

  • John Villar

    Lol at all those complaining about “extreme violence”… the title and warning should’ve been more than enough to not open this article.

    Btw Francesco, cool thing you did use rotoscoping for the motion “capture”… how much percentage of the whole 10 days took you the rotoscoping part? I ask because i myself i’m evaluating motion capture solutions and rotoscoping is the cheap-but-hard one in my process right now.

  • AlyasPogi

    Lots of people have problem separating fiction from reality?

    It is not real. What are you a bunch of kids?

    Needs some more work. You will notice that something is off with the fire – probably smoke. Maybe you need to use reference. Try burning some clothes and a pig or cow meat with gasoline.

    There are some shots were the woman’s size seems inconsistent.

    • IamInnocent

      “It is not real. What are you a bunch of kids?”

      Exactly the opposite I think: immature people can’t feel the pain of others when it is represented to them.

      Otherwise it was as bad as the acting but it shows potential. After all, where does one gathers the experience about how burning people look and act in such a short notice.

      • Lttlemoi

         “It is not real. What are you a bunch of kids?”
        A (normal!) kid that is confronted with violence will try to hide or run from it. Mature people keep watching and thinking about it. (Or they try to help the victimif they are trained to do so).

        • IamInnocent

           Immature adults != kids.

  • Giogallo

    I saw the broadcast on TV. The horrible thing happend few kms from where I live. I was horrified and had a bad bad night sleeping.
    Sadly the job was well done, hence.

    But I know that Francesco and his team are able of wondrous things… keep doing great things!

  • Nick Rishel

    Not going to comment on the effect, but on the message.

    “It try to sensibilize those women to help them denounce their condition.”

    If this is your intended goal then you could not have been further off the track. :(

    People base their actions on example, this is simple psychology. If you want to empower people, you show examples of people being empowered. Preferably in realistic ways that people might emulate. If your goal is to “sensibilize those women” then this shot had no purpose here. I will take a somewhat unpopular opinion and say that this shot might have had purpose for another story, but not here.

    Again, I can not stress this point enough, IF YOU WANT TO EMPOWER PEOPLE, YOU MUST SHOW PEOPLE BEING EMPOWERED! All this shot does is make this seem more “normal” which is completely adjacent to your goal of helping those who are in such a condition. Bringing awareness to an issue is not the same encouraging those in it to fix it. This is the most fundamental failing of this artistic endeavor. :(

    • Lttlemoi

      I must disagree with you. I have seen my fair share of horror movies (the complete Saw series, to name some) and it doesn’t even come to mind to recreate or imitate them. Only sick people who can’t think for themselves would do such a thing. (Thats why these movies are rated 16+ in most countries).

      If I made a movie in which people jump of bridges to commit suicide, would you do the same?! I truly hope your answer is “No”…

      • Nick Rishel

        I would not, but it does convince people that it is more normal.

        I apologize if I miss-communicated though, I am not saying this encourages more violence, I’m saying that it does not encourage people who are in the situation to get help (i.e. people who by some account can already be considered sick). More so, it encourages individuals who are in this situation that it is normal. The artist’s stated goal is to help these people, not us, so this is the perspective I take when judging it.

        If the artist had suggested that this was to raise awareness of the issue, then I would say it is very effective; this is not their stated goal and for the reasons I stated above their work is counter to their purpose.

        • John D Smith II

           I agree Nick… of course it’s possible to take it out of context without sound or voice-overs. Highly unlikely, but possible…I think this imagery is more likely to terrify a woman in an abusive relationship to inaction even more so than she already is, instead of making her feel empowered. You see, that is the core of the problem! She doesn’t act for the precise reason that she believes it might trigger a worse reaction like this! Fear causes panic and inaction, or panic and thoughtless action. I see this all the time. For a less grisly example, my girlfriend is always commenting that I never worry about anything and never get mad… she’s right too, because I’ve known my whole life that calm, level headed people are the ones who get things done when the pressure is on. And that’s why she panics and worries when something goes wrong and looks to me to fix it. I neither panic nor worry and so calmly and deliberately deal with the problem, usually within less time than it took her to panickly tell me what’s wrong . Actually this ALL comes down to bad or lazy parenting problems at the root and also ‘being a man’, but that doesn’t belong here, and some people are just bad through and through. Heck, now that I think about it, what do you really think these women were attracted to in the first place? His smile? Come on… But there is no excuse for beating and burning women, ignoring the signs of it, or letting the creep go in his lifetime. This is just more of the tasteless sensationalism that is so prevalent in media, wait, I’m sorry, IS “media”. It might be coated with the veneer of a good cause, but it’s all about the ratings and lining pockets. Even before I read the comments I thought this was pretty darnned insincere. So much so that I was laughing pretty hard until I scrolled down and read the mess below the video. After reading I’m even more inclined. On the other hand, it is very nice of someone to share their production experience with us. That is often rare, even if it does disillusion us from our innocent and grand desire to work in, what is here revealed to be, a jaded and shallow industry that preys on the inflammatory(literally!) strife that it throws in our faces, laughing as we attack each other over moral speculations while they quietly take our money…Thank you for the heads up! Forget working TV… noted! Oh yeah, that’s why I don’t have cable!!  There’s my opinion. I’m outta here…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=760698629 Joel Wagner

      I agree. This is nothing but torture porn in my viewpoint.

      • Nick Rishel

        I think there could be use for it. To quote myself above “If the artist had suggested that this was to raise awareness of the
        issue, then I would say it is very effective; this is not their stated
        goal and for the reasons I stated above their work is counter to their
        purpose.” 

      • FreeWORK56

        MATHEUS 4:8
        WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
        Hurry
        up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
        you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
        barbecue:)

  • who get burn

    Let me said , word of caution about fire, Don’t try yourself at home, It isn’t real, fake fire
    Some kids believe its for real.

    I have a friend who get burn from gas station, her fault, she kicked gas can over fire and boom. Just said.

  • Rnsierra

    If blender become a mayor studio standard CGI Tool then expect these kind of effects in movies.

    • César Eduardo Cárdenas Fuentes

       Try another reference of fire done in blender ;) this isn’t a good one to show the real power of blender handling fire

  • andr3a

    Very very very well done friends!

  • Wasamonkey

    The vfx looked pretty good, my sound wasn’t working but as bad as the physical acting looked, i’m kinda glad lol

    Sadly, most women in abusive relations will only rationalize it as being lucky they only get smacked around and that this would never happen to them…. But hey if it helps even one woman find the strength to get out of an abusive relation then this video has done it’s job.

  • Lttlemoi

    When I look at everybody’s posts that there shouldn’t be violent stuff
    like this on Blender Nation, I find myself wondering what’s happening
    with our society. Why can’t people see that the art made with Blender,
    namely the fire, is the only reason why this video was posted? It
    doesn’t even matter what’s on fire, it’s the effect of fire itself that
    counts.

    I even think that this video could and should have been more horrible.
    The video doesn’t promote setting your wife on fire, it tells us that it
    should be stopped. The only way to make this message clear, is by
    showing how awful violence is. Banning and censoring all violence (both
    physical and mental) makes us believe that there IS no violence. It’s
    just like an ostrich sticking its head into the ground to escape potential danger.

    As for the fire itself, I think it could need some work. The lack of smoke, the blurriness of the flames and the incorrect shadows (especially in the shower) are some important deatails that make a scene look realistic or not. If I was the one making this show, I’d rather send in a stuntman and set him on fire. It’s not that the artists aren’t professional enough, they did a great job trying to create realistic fire. (I must admit that I couldn’t have done it nearly half as good as they did) There are just better ways to do this.
     

    • FreeWORK56

      MATHEUS 4:8
      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry
      up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
      you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
      barbecue:)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H3EEHB5WF332GBFBGUYL5D5COA Phil

    Further to earlier comment -  I would say though, as an observation (to me), a fair few of the animations I see presented.. feature conflict and violence (often pointless) such as in Sintel,  or they are simply lacking in charm – such as Big Buck Bunny.  But I just figure that understanding 3d animation.. and the technicalities of Blender  doesn’t make one a storyteller. That is a whole ‘nother discipline and skill. Maybe Disney cartoons tend to be charming as a result of the legacy of traditional drawn 2d animation and the associated artistic origins whereas 3d comes from a techie software direction -  with lotsa dudes just not having that kind of sensitivity. Just goes to show you need a team to do good work..  creative and technical. Don’t wear both hats. Not that it applies to this example – this was just a technical task and it looked well done. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H3EEHB5WF332GBFBGUYL5D5COA Phil

    —- Never see many gals posting about using Blender – just saying….  maybe that’s another reason why some products are slanted toward smashing stuff and general conflicts

  • daniel

    Sigh… thumbs up for those who kept focused :) (I won’t :D)
    Francesco Paglia did a great job and gave a very professionnal description of his workflow which seemed to work very well with his time constraints. Congrats!

    Daniel
    PS: Bart, the warning was very clear for me, no problem ;) I just wouldn’t have put the video at the top as people, even warned, enjoy being frightened, disgusted (the typical “slow down, look a car accident, eeewww”). Then they cry because they are shocked. Others don’t like to see what can actually happen and invoke great powers to convince you to censor information (talking both about the show and the post) but – and I’m about to get flamed here (no pun intended) – I prefer being informed than being a dazzled ignorant (talking about the show here, not the post). Bad things happen and its good to know. So thanks for the post and I hope the show was useful! (BTW, I didn’t watch the video cause I know I hate when bad things happen)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/H3EEHB5WF332GBFBGUYL5D5COA Phil

     The justification for the show?  Hahahahha now that was prime bullshit. hahaha.  Shows about violence, criminals, murders, medical freaks etc..  they are not educational, no they are put out by shitty networks to appeal to the most uneducated members of society who like to stare at mindless crap. It indulges a morbid interest in unsavoury shit.  Of course the networks can’t admit that so they dress it up as a social benefit. Nobody really believes that. The “Faces of Death” video series is a prime example. Watch if you want but you are degrading yourself.

    • Lttlemoi

      not every video that depicts crime or violence is like that. There are also some shows and movies that tell a story. Many people are against violent movies, but they did watch and like Star Wars, Lord Of The Rings and other violent movies.
      Besides, what do you define as “too violent” anyway? Mass murder, yes, but what about psychological violence like bullying (which is NOT only related to children)? Nobody ever seems to think about that.

      • hr

        Star Wars and Lord of the Rings are violent movies?! WHUT?! Where are your from? Pink, shiny happyland? Must be a strange place where Star Wars is considered as a violent movie… And your comment has nothing to do with the comment you are replying to.

        • Danny

          People do get dismembered quite a lot in them.

  • Ric

    Probably a good production, but so perturbing and terrible to watch, I hope i didn’t see it, hopefully Blendernation won’t publish this kind of art anymore.

  • Alexsani

    To everyone complaining about the content, a warning was posted, and it is perfectly applicable to the site.  No one makes you click the link, click play, or continue watching.

    As for the animation itself, it honestly looks like little more than simple particle flames (I do understand it used the smoke simulator, but it didn’t do it very well), and I would consider many games to have a better effect.  The scene itself didn’t make much sense, as the actions of the actors didn’t follow the result that was intended.  However, I understand this was done in a short time frame, and I consider it perfectly applicable to show on this site.

  • Guest

    I don’t really want to get into the debate on whether or not this scene should be shown on a site like Blendernation or onto that about the limitations of its technical quality.  I just hope that it does not “inspire” anyone to indulge in such sickening behaviour for real.  There are always psychos out their waiting to be tipped over the edge.

  • hr

    Clip is to much out of context and to short. So it is impossible to tell if it is the attempt to help women or just lurid entertainment under the guise of “sensibilisation”. To “enjoy this post” is the last thing that comes to my mind. I also find it inappropriate to discuss a clip like this from a purely technical point of view.

    And to all of you who wrote things like “oh no, to disturbing, can’t watch it, dont’t show it”: This is the reality you live in. And it won’t go away neither if you ignore it nor if you censor it.

    And to all of you wrote “wow, awesome, show me more, lol”: Your are disgusting.

    The irony with this situation lies in the fact that both of you types of commentators are just the two extremes of the same decadence. 

  • trifolato

    I don’t think alcol (see the pink bottle used by the man) burn this way and even under a shower. So dramatic that it didn’t impressed me because flame are too fake in my opinion.
    Loved the pipeline shared. 

  • iRowebot

    To Bart
    Thank you for the post. I felt even with the subject matter it is entirely appropriate for this site, and i found the insight into their production process well worth it despite the content.

    To everyone that was disturbed and disgusted by the content, as you should be, you do have a point. Authors,bloggers,journalists, and even forum moderators are gatekeepers of information. They as the media do indeed have a responsibility to vet the content they are distributing and ensure it is appropriate for the media they produce and the audience its produced for. This is a site that caters to Blender and CG. Had this post been a random youtube video of violence i would agree that its inappropriate for BlenderNation but in this case there was quite a bit of worth while Blender related content to go along with it. In my eyes Bart did his job of ensuring the blender content was of sufficient quality to warrant a post and include a warning for anyone not wishing to see the video. Its not his job to make sure you like what you see

  • Guest

    The only thing this production is highlighting is the ongoing myth that women are more likely to be victims of domestic violence when such a thing has never been true.
    Argue against that all you want (and there will be plenty who will) but it has always been men who are the greater victims but who also are the most silent about their problems because no one believes that a man could be the victim and the woman the perpetrator.

  • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

    People, if you bypassed the warning to get to the content which was meant to be disturbing on purpose, that’s your problem, not ours and not the world’s.

    • Murl1280

      Brian, some of us (me included) are not complaining that we viewed at the video, but are simply stating we don’t approve of this type of disturbing content and would rather see Blender Nation post less extreme and less disturbing content in the future. I am entitled to my opinion as much as you are whether you agree or not. :)

      Can we please move on…

      • http://MacroManJr.blogspot.com/ Brian Lockett

        My point still stands without being refuted.  You say you don’t approve of this type of disturbing content and would rather seeing BlenderNation post “less extreme and less disturbing content in the future” but BlenderNation does not make a habit of posting these kinds of posts and frankly, BlenderNation is community-friendly and open to suggestions, but I’ve noticed that it’s still not a democracy–and rightfully so. If anything, we’re guests here.  It’s not our website nor our shot to call what gets put on this site.

        I personally can’t recall the last time BlenderNation ever posted up something Blender-related content that touched on such a sobering issue of such a disturbing nature here, and I sincerely doubt it’s something that’ll be frequent.  I think this was just a chance to show a good professional production and it touched on something that won’t be the usual topic of such level of production.  By the way, I care not for opinions here.  I care for truth.  But even an opinion can be fact, when it is acceptance of and agreement with a fact.  And that is what I have been establishing.  When I see violated principles, I address them–it sharpens my mind.

        But sure, we can move on, but then again, my entire perspective here is that this should’ve never have been a dispute in the first place.

        • FreeWORK56

          MATHEUS 4:8
          WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
          Hurry
          up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
          you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
          barbecue:)

  • Natethegreatgill

    Oh my god that was disturbing. Warning proved very relevant. Very good work on the flip side

  • Postrock

    Besides the fact that i didnt like the effects, i think that depicting a real life situation with such attention to its gruesome aspects, is downright sadistic. I have seen lots of horros movies, some where way more gruesome that this clip and some where even based on real facts. But this is just awful in every way, not only disturbing, just awful to watch.

  • Guest

    A few problems here.
    1. Has she ever heard of “stop, drop, and roll”?
    2. The fire was not overly impressive, but I understand time limits.
    3. Almost all cases of Domestic Violence is from both partners. In those with only one offender, the female is usually the abuser, not the victim. (but even though women are more likely to use weapons, they are less likely to seriously injure the other person)
    4. There are numerous DV shelters for battered women, but very few for men. (look up Erin Pizzey, she founded the first domestic violence shelter in the UK, but when she later tried to open one for men, she received death threats and had to leave the country)

    • Danny

      Point 1, 3 and 4 are completely irrelevant.

      • Guest

        If the point of this video is to bring attention to domestic violence then points 1,3 and 4 are VERY relevant.

        • Xnimator56

          women are born for barbecue, get your gallon of gasoline until it last !

        • Nick Rishel

          Agreed, but points 3 needs citation.

          • Guest

            Why does it need citation? Because you don’t readily accept it as being true?

            If someone claimed that women were more likely than men to be raped you’d believe that one as well and yet the prolific sexual abuse that men experience in prison alone other than just in the outside world is something that contradicts such an assumption but people obviously would rather not care because the victims are men.

            As soon as any claim involves a woman then the claim is automatically believed to be true.

          • FreeWORK56

            WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
            Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

    • Animator33

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  • Andrew Macht

    This seriously looks fantastic at least to me although, I spotted the problem areas. This would take me months just for an attempt. I would love to see a quick breakdown of the scene.

    • FreeWORK56

      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

    • Matheus48

      MATHEUS 4:8
      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s barbecue:)

  • blurdude

    I think there’s a typo in the title. Isn’t it suppose to be VFX? Or is it meant to be VXF?

    • FreeWORK56

      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

  • PINARCI

    I think I am a pretty peaceful kind of guy . But , I know there are lots of women out there ,who ,simply can render men senseless animal like monsters :) ,well at that point you gotta get out , or burn the chick to crisp :)
    HAHAHAHAHAHA !
    burn
    burn !
    BUUUURRRRRNNNNNN !
    I am looking forward to part 2

    Okay yes, also IT would be nice to see R rated warning upfront .

  • Blendercross

    Brutal shocking Shots – but professionell made….

  • Tommy

    Politically correct brigade are active today.  Get off your high horse and do something about it then.

    • FreeWORK56

      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

  • Snimator56

    Matheus 3:8:
     Jesus said: All women are born for barbecue, it is just a matter that gasoline gets invented. Adan?  would you regret not to have burned down Eva in the paradise? Apocalysys: witches and women are for barbecue, get you gallon of gasoline  today !

  • Jochenknochen

    sorry, but this is just disgusting and terrible. i wouldnt have worked on a job like this. things like this change you

  • Thecrusader

    From my point of view some less brutal but real violence from the new or documentary is much more disturbing. This video on contrary is just really good work. Can’t you people tell whats real and fiction? Stay out of the cinemas, trash your TV and please do me the favor and leave the Internet. Peace!

    • Thecrusader

      Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

  • petergk

    please remove asap.
    thanks.

    petergk

    • FreeWORK56

      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

  • Thecrusader

    Don’t remove it !!!
    I don’t mind the “violence”, it is just fiction.

    • Thecrusader

      Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

  • http://www.FreezingMoon.org/ Dread Knight

    This is some sick stuff :D

  • Efflam Fragan

    This make me laught, a lot.
    first, the men face: sounds like: “ohoho, i’m a baddie i’ll burn my wife today!”
    then the fire is quite funny, it seems like: “hey guys, i’ve got an nice orange-glowin’ suit!”
    then, the amount of time the woman still stand up reminded me a shower scene in a famous hitchcock film…
    and finnally the little childrens commenters made me lolling a lot, hey guys, haven’t you all used a 3D app?
    i just see a brave but failed attempt to do a fire&burn simulation, and even if it was real looking, it’s just a film!

  • Benjamin Lindquist

    Wow… that was indeed disturbing. Not complaining, saw the warning. 
    What I found even more disturbing though was that some people seem to laugh at this and weren’t affected in any way. Even if it’s fake and the cg was a bit rushed a topic like this would in no way amuse me.

    Also to the people saying “Come on this is fake… can’t you see the difference between reality and imagination etc.” actually watching horrific things will affect your mind whether you believe it or not. 
    You know that feeling when you are a bit jumpy after watching a horror movie? Probably means you’ve partially sunk into the movie world. Well maybe you should stop watching crap like that before you get numb to it. People that are numb to watching horrible things whether real or not will probably have less of a problem doing horrible things. I’m not saying it has to be that way but it’s hardly a good thing being unaffected by things that are supposed to freak you out. 
    So saying something didn’t affect you the slightest doesn’t make you cool it makes you scary and I wouldn’t want to know you.

    • Efflam Fragan

      So to resume what you say: people who laugh on ridiculous horror movie = murderers? 
      We see so many people dying and burning even in non-horror films,
      now what can really disturb you is more often the sound and the music of the movie,
      the atmosphere, not the overdone VFX of gore and shit like that.
      It’s not disturbing at all unless it’s real!
      I dislike gore movie beacause that’s ridiculous and it’s easier to put gore Fx rather than
      building a deep scenario!

      • Benjamin Lindquist

        No I’m not saying that. 
        Let me quote myself “I’m not saying it has to be that way but it’s hardly a good thing…”. 

        Also I didn’t mean laughing at ridiculous horror movies but something with a more serious aspect like this for instance. I think a lot of people find outdated or poorly done effects a bit funny but that wasn’t my point. I was just saying that  getting numb to serious matters and laughing at them is quite sick in my opinion.

        The statement “It’s not disturbing at all unless it’s real!” is a lot of nonsense. Movie effects are often at least partially made to simulate real world events and are supposed to affect you it just depends a lot what kind of overall mood the movie, or the scene even, has. Same thing goes for events or themes in movies. If it’s action nobody cares if a few people die here and there but if you’ve got to know a bit about them in the movie eg. in a drama having them die does affect you more because you’ve started to care about them a little. Actually you don’t even have to go that far if you think of eg. some movie where A tries to kill B for no apparent reason. You don’t know anything about B but I think most people would hope for the victim to get away and be unharmed anyway. 

        That’s called empathy and if you can’t feel it or other emotions because it’s not real then I don’t understand why you would watch any movie at all. Movies are supposed to make you feel something. Everybody knows movies are fake with actors playing their parts but that doesn’t mean they don’t affect us.

        In this particular case the roles of the characters are pretty black&white and clearly meant to instantly give a bad image of the man and thus for you to care for the woman not to get hurt. Adding to it even more is that this supposedly has happened for real. Just laughing at an act like this even if the effects didn’t convince you makes you pretty creepy in my opinion.

    • FreeWORK56

      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

    • Benjamin

      Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

  • T3rdaxis

    Nope, didn’t get through the whole of it- way too disgusting for my taste. Maybe because my brother was torched when he was a kid (one never forgets the smell of burning flesh). Still, art is a subjective matter, some peeps like horror and some don’t.  As for the effects – yeah it depicted a horror, but it didn’t do it’s job if it was supposed to show the software’s capabilities. If the creator would have shown the capabilities in a different theme – like, burning some inanimate object, I probably could have watched the entire piece and got the benefit of understanding the capabilities of the software – now, I’ll never know because I can’t stomach the video in its entirety.

    • FreeWORK56

      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

  • FreeWORK12

    Matheus 8:12

    Jesus said: Women were born for barbicue.
     Apocalypsys: As soon as gasoline gets invented get your gallon and get rid of your boring wives !

    • http://www.blendernation.com Bart Veldhuizen

      Op 6 mei 2012, om 07:46 heeft Disqus het volgende geschreven:

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003193711681 Zander Nicolic

         Ahah Bart, you are speaking Klinghon.
        Besides, I’ve had preferred more discussion about technical problems and less about contents, but this cannot be helped, I realize. What really hurts me is the misplaced irony in the comment by FreeWORK12.

        • FreeXWORK56

          Well the problem is that he is right !
           Matheus 4:8 says: WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
          Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

        • Benjamin

          So feeling better? Or did it hurt too much sore ass ?

  • FreeWORK56

    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

  • FreeWORK56

    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

  • FrWORfgt

    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher !

  • FreeWORK56

    MATHEUS 4:8
    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry
    up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
    you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
    barbecue:)

  • FreeWORK56

    MATHEUS 4:8
    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry
    up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
    you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
    barbecue:)

    • FreeWORK56

      MATHEUS 4:8
      WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
      Hurry
      up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
      you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
      barbecue:)

  • FreeWORK56

    MATHEUS 4:8
    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry
    up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
    you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
    barbecue:)

  • FreeWORK56

    MATHEUS 4:8
    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry
    up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
    you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
    barbecue:)

  • FreeWORK56

    MATHEUS 4:8
    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry
    up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
    you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
    barbecue:)

  • FreeWORK56

    MATHEUS 4:8
    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry
    up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
    you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
    barbecue:)

  • FreeWORK56

    MATHEUS 4:8
    WOMEN are born for barbecue, burn down yours Today !
    Hurry
    up ! Let’s get some gasoline before prices go higher ! Adan why didn’t
    you burn Eva? Lord gasoline was not invented yet, otherwise Evas’s
    barbecue:)

  • Doplatelo

    Burning woman….get way from me….isn’t it a song?

  • http://niko40.deviantart.com/ Niko40

    Putting this against the time available, that was really nicely done piece, fire could have been better but still really well done job overall. :) How much this moved people though is just rediculous. It really isn’t that horrible… Nor real. <_< Apparently people here won't watch any horror movies either then.

    • JoelSchuz

      The job is very good. If someone got touched by the scene or not it depends of your fragile side. This was extremely well done.

  • Benjamin

    Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

  • JoshSchenz

    Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

  • Thecrusader

    Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

  • Niko40

    Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

    • Niko40

      Read the Bible and learn to burn down women !

  • Niko40

    Burn a woman and get a FREE copy of MANGO !!

  • Niko40

    Read the Bible and learn to burn down women ! Holy crap ! Who says Magdalena should have been burned down ! Thumb up if you agree !

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003193711681 Zander Nicolic

    I’m shocked. I thought that Blender has a very nice community, and still think so. But this thread shows that sick heads align everywhere. No irony should be allowed on violence, of any kind.

    • Benjamin Lindquist

      Yeah it seems so.

  • César Eduardo Cárdenas Fuentes

    Well, i have some words to say in the several topics that are being handled here:

    1. The video itself: Well, actually to have implemented all that pipeline in just 10 days and be your first attempt in it, it’s actually a really good work. My personal Constructive critic: i think the flames should have a higher contrast (idk how to do that, but i know that is missing).

    2. About the content of the video: Well, first of all, just like bart said, it has a lot of warnings and the title itself says what are you going to watch if you avoid those warnings. Even if it was a good job, hollywood has done works a lot more disturbing than this one, and remember that THIS IS A VIDEO TO AWARE PEOPLE that this stuff is really happening, even if you watch it or not. This is not ment to “do it yourself”, just for the opposite, show how inhuman this bastards are.