Comments on: Window 98 and Windows ME can't launch the last Blender version anymore

By: sucahyo

sucahyo — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:37:51 +0000

Thanks for this. I really appreciate windows 98 support.

I still use windows 98 at home. and I wish I can run blender at home too. It is sad if windows 98 support is dropped. I hope the programmer do not decide this just to get more feature easily. If we can do this with older compiler, why do we need to use new compiler?

If only the rendering part which need new feature, Maybe it's time it have to be separated from the editor part.

And I surely hope blender do not migrate to dot net………….

I administrating some ubuntu computer in office. I had to use ubuntu 6.06 with openoffice 2.4.1 instead of using 8.04, because on 128 computer 6.06 is much faster. But opening some big excel file still force the user to wait a couple of minutes. and some even have to wait seconds on each typing. Those user miss windows 98 and MS excel, thank goodness there is gnumeric.

By: houari

houari — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:35:57 +0000

*btw i use blender 2.46

By: houari

houari — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:34:26 +0000

*hello … just for fun…
*i had no problem with blender running under xp untill yesterday while shutting down pc i had a "runtime error…" message…;moment before i was having trouble with gimp…trouble that i successfully fixed
*today no matter what i did blender would not run…untill i checked the compatibility box…and that not only made blender work all over again but made it work even faster than it used under xp especially under windows 2000…
*strange!!!!

By: jms

jms — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:24:20 +0000

I'm a bit amazing by all this movement around win98 management.

By: Studio Stockwell

Studio Stockwell — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:35:09 +0000

I forgot to mention that i have a copy of 98 i will probably give it a try see how it runs. I was wondering what you guys / girls are running 98 & ME?

By: Pixel3D

Pixel3D — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:41:26 +0000

As someone who uses both Windows 98 SE and Linux, I'm of the opinion that Blender
should run on Windows 98/ME as long as possible. When I noticed the problem, I thought
about posting on the bug tracker. At the time, I figured I would be given the common line
about MS dropping support for Windows 98. Therefore Windows 98 support would also be dropped from Blender and that would be it.

Instead, I am very grateful to see the problem is being worked on.

I'm concerned though that because Windows 98 support may require a slightly older
version of MSVC++ to compile, it might not be available in official BF releases.

At least Blender can still be compiled to work with Windows 98.

OpenGL goes back to before Windows 95, I believe. I'm not sure how much OpenGL support exists in Windows 98, but Blender 2.45 seemed to run without problems.

(Contrast OpenGL with DirectX - DX10 "requires" Vista, IIRC).

@joeri: I don't appreciate being called an idiot because I live in the United States.

Please don't assume that because I'm American I'm this wealthy person who is not interested in support for older operating systems. Heck, it would be fine with me if Blender ran on Windows 95, but there are likely few if any Win95 era machines with fast enough hardware to run it.

I remember trying to run the old NaN Blender on a Pentium 75 running Windows 95.
Ahh, those were the days.

Anyway, thanks to those who are working on this problem. Blender devs, if you're reading this, please try to find a way to offer official releases that work with Windows 98.

By: Studio Stockwell

Studio Stockwell — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:13:28 +0000

I wonder if the render times are faster? But i guess that depends on what is being rendered and CPU speed. From what i know XP is memory hungry. I was totally unaware that Blender builds for XP ran on 98 and ME. Blender really works wonders sometimes. :)

Keep up the good work! :)

By: free_ality

free_ality — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:38:34 +0000

@jaco: Of course people can have a personal opinion! Everybody should be entitled to use whatever they want :]. The shameful part is people bashing another person's choice in OS, and thats definitely shameful.

Whenever info comes up about windows, we get lots of linux users going on about how windows sucks and we should all just switch to Linux. Whenever Linux info comes up, we get linux users professing either A) they were right all along, Linux is amazing(if the info is positive) or B) Its still better than Micro$oft Windows(if its negative).

In the long run, I fail to see hows it worth their time to jump on every OS post and turn it into a blankVSblank thing. Cant we just be cool with the fact that everybody isnt the same, and move on? If linux is the best thing that ever happened to you, thats fantastic, Im happy for you. But theres really no need to get preachy/hostile about folks whove chosen a different OS. Just like Blender preaching episodes tend not to make us look good on sites like cgtalk, linux preaching episodes over here certainly dont harbor good feelings on either side of the 'debate'.

Anyway, yeah, I know this has gone on for far too long, I just wanted to get that in.
Peace!

By: BonE

BonE — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:02:59 +0000

thnx!

By: Zsolt Stefan

Zsolt Stefan — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:02:38 +0000

Hey, what's up with all this Windows bashing?
Sure it had it's problems, but I'd say Windows 98 was one of the longest lived working OS-es of all time. Which Linux user here uses a build from 1998? Especially one that still works with most programs and most hardware available today?

btw, afaik Microsoft extended it's support for 98/ME for several more years.

(On a side note, I use Linux and XP as well, both work most of the time, but BOTH also crash sometimes.)

Thank you JMS for the build, I am sure there are people who appreciate it!
Zsolt