Comments on: EFF Goes to Aid 3D Modelers http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/ Fresh Blender News, Every Day Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:37:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Danilo http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-321942 Danilo Fri, 09 May 2008 00:14:06 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-321942 In 1981, Mattel Eletronics released a game for their Intellivision console called B-17 Bomber. Did Mattel infriged any copyright or trademark laws by releasing a game with that name? I agree with most people here, its a simple case of lawyers with to much free time. In 1981, Mattel Eletronics released a game for their Intellivision console called B-17 Bomber.
Did Mattel infriged any copyright or trademark laws by releasing a game with that name?

I agree with most people here, its a simple case of lawyers with to much free time.

]]> By: Richard http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-321693 Richard Thu, 08 May 2008 03:20:22 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-321693 I seem to remember that the b-24 was designed and built by Consolidated. Would that throw any monkey wrenches into Lockheed's plumbing? I wold hope so. The darned airplane was built 60 years ago! I believe there is only one flying example left. I think Lockheed is being a bit small-minded on this issue. I seem to remember that the b-24 was designed and built by Consolidated. Would that throw any monkey wrenches into Lockheed's plumbing? I wold hope so. The darned airplane was built 60 years ago! I believe there is only one flying example left. I think Lockheed is being a bit small-minded on this issue.

]]> By: Tomas http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-321548 Tomas Wed, 07 May 2008 21:47:04 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-321548 @Alexander - How do you verify that your work is "original" is that not up to the viewer of your work and whoever can file a patent/trademark/copyright before you? We are all influenced by what we see, hear, touch, etc.. so I'm sure if you look hard enough you will find others who came up with a similar "original" work or even gave their fantasy picture/render/model the same title you give yours, does that mean you are a criminal? No, it just means that people think alike are are influenced by the same material. Seriously, does someone own the rights dragons or all mythical creatures or derivatives of said mythical creaturs? (well maybe if you are Wizards of the Coast...) While I understand that to intellectual property has value and certain brands/trademarks should not me mis-represented, but does that mean that if I want to create a 3D model of my office at work I can give it away because it has a phone that looks like a Nortel phone or a LCD monitor that has ViewSonic on it? This seems ridiculous. Now if I was selling an LCD monitor with the ViewSonic name on it which was in reality a cheap knock off then I could see a problem. With the B-24 model, I don't really see a problem, unless of course someone who purchased that model and the model was detailed enough that that person could manufacture his own B-24 knock off and sell it, then I would see a problem. Not with the model but with the knock made from it. I guess you can really argue this all day long, but in the end it seems you have to have a mega-buck company behind you if you want to make anything. @Alexander - How do you verify that your work is "original" is that not up to the viewer of your work and whoever can file a patent/trademark/copyright before you?

We are all influenced by what we see, hear, touch, etc.. so I'm sure if you look hard enough you will find others who came up with a similar "original" work or even gave their fantasy picture/render/model the same title you give yours, does that mean you are a criminal? No, it just means that people think alike are are influenced by the same material.

Seriously, does someone own the rights dragons or all mythical creatures or derivatives of said mythical creaturs? (well maybe if you are Wizards of the Coast…)

While I understand that to intellectual property has value and certain brands/trademarks should not me mis-represented, but does that mean that if I want to create a 3D model of my office at work I can give it away because it has a phone that looks like a Nortel phone or a LCD monitor that has ViewSonic on it? This seems ridiculous. Now if I was selling an LCD monitor with the ViewSonic name on it which was in reality a cheap knock off then I could see a problem.

With the B-24 model, I don't really see a problem, unless of course someone who purchased that model and the model was detailed enough that that person could manufacture his own B-24 knock off and sell it, then I would see a problem. Not with the model but with the knock made from it. I guess you can really argue this all day long, but in the end it seems you have to have a mega-buck company behind you if you want to make anything.

]]> By: Arru http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-321292 Arru Wed, 07 May 2008 06:37:25 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-321292 Clearly the Blender/Open 3D community needs a model publisher with just a bit of a backbone, unlike TurboSquid! (and can you really blame them with a name like that LOL) In the meantime there's always www.thepiratebay.org :D Clearly the Blender/Open 3D community needs a model publisher with just a bit of a backbone, unlike TurboSquid! (and can you really blame them with a name like that LOL) In the meantime there's always http://www.thepiratebay.org :D

]]> By: Haas http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-319397 Haas Mon, 05 May 2008 10:56:56 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-319397 Censuring the Internet is soooo 2002 Internet is allergic to censor and has a backwards response to censor so keep doing it and your sure to know that your models are being downloaded. Censuring the Internet is soooo 2002
Internet is allergic to censor and has a backwards response to censor so keep doing it and your sure to know that your models are being downloaded.

]]> By: joeri http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-317629 joeri Sat, 03 May 2008 12:34:47 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-317629 I think all the people who talk about the word B22 are not taking the right angle at this problem. Somebody has copied a shape and a shape that is not his to copy, thus infringing copyrights. Yes starwars models have been taken down for just this fact. Why did this guy copy this shape? Thats where his defends should focus on. If its to create news articles or history articles then its freedom of speech. (deeply attackt by the DMCA as this example proofs) If its because he thinks this shape would sell better on TS then his own design airplane then its clearly copyright infringement; go design your own plane. I think all the people who talk about the word B22 are not taking the right angle at this problem.

Somebody has copied a shape and a shape that is not his to copy, thus infringing copyrights.

Yes starwars models have been taken down for just this fact.

Why did this guy copy this shape? Thats where his defends should focus on.
If its to create news articles or history articles then its freedom of speech. (deeply attackt by the DMCA as this example proofs)
If its because he thinks this shape would sell better on TS then his own design airplane then its clearly copyright infringement; go design your own plane.

]]> By: Sebastian http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-317309 Sebastian Sat, 03 May 2008 04:21:33 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-317309 Submitted to digg. Go and digg it. This is not something that should remain like it is. I support EFF ! Submitted to digg. Go and digg it. This is not something that should remain like it is. I support EFF !

]]> By: Kirado http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-316928 Kirado Fri, 02 May 2008 18:32:14 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-316928 submitted to digg.. go over there and make it hit the front page pls. For some reason I can't post the link.. go there and digg it up. submitted to digg.. go over there and make it hit the front page pls. For some reason I can't post the link.. go there and digg it up.

]]> By: Kirado http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-316926 Kirado Fri, 02 May 2008 18:30:47 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-316926 submitted to digg.. go over there and make it hit the front page pls. submitted to digg.. go over there and make it hit the front page pls.

]]> By: Rado http://www.blendernation.com/2008/04/30/eff-goes-to-aid-3d-modelers/#comment-316769 Rado Fri, 02 May 2008 15:00:34 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/?p=3979#comment-316769 t TS are by no means saints nor altruists but put yourselves in their shoes. They are not such a huge company. In US reality they got no chance to win a trial with such a monster as Lockheed. It might take milions of $, years of time and effort and they would have no gain in it. So- what should they do when lawyers of such a corporation (be it Ford, Mercedes or any other brand that has been recently "banned" on their portal ) contact them ? t TS are by no means saints nor altruists but put yourselves in their shoes. They are not such a huge company. In US reality they got no chance to win a trial with such a monster as Lockheed. It might take milions of $, years of time and effort and they would have no gain in it. So- what should they do when lawyers of such a corporation (be it Ford, Mercedes or any other brand that has been recently "banned" on their portal ) contact them ?

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