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	<title>Comments on: Ton&#039;s Berlinale Keynote Now Online</title>
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		<title>By: LarryPhillips</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-256569</link>
		<dc:creator>LarryPhillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pioneers tend to get arrows in their butts from time to time. Not always a bad thing -it keeps you on your toes.

Thanks to all the pioneers represented on this page.

Great presentation that was.

Great site this is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pioneers tend to get arrows in their butts from time to time. Not always a bad thing -it keeps you on your toes.</p>
<p>Thanks to all the pioneers represented on this page.</p>
<p>Great presentation that was.</p>
<p>Great site this is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nekron</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-253349</link>
		<dc:creator>Nekron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So whats your problem folks? It's all up to you to download and watch the Berlinale speak and watch that 30 secs trailer. I for myself will wait for the DVD becomes available and will watch the full featured video and no WIP stuff, possibly spoiling the movie.

My 2 cents..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So whats your problem folks? It&#039;s all up to you to download and watch the Berlinale speak and watch that 30 secs trailer. I for myself will wait for the DVD becomes available and will watch the full featured video and no WIP stuff, possibly spoiling the movie.</p>
<p>My 2 cents..</p>
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		<title>By: ton</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252809</link>
		<dc:creator>ton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I told on the berlinale was old news, on Blender Conference 5 months ago I did the Durian announcement and spoke about open content bizz models as well.

http://download.blender.org/documentation/bc2007/movies/D1_0tonkeynote.mov

-Ton-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I told on the berlinale was old news, on Blender Conference 5 months ago I did the Durian announcement and spoke about open content bizz models as well.</p>
<p><a href="http://download.blender.org/documentation/bc2007/movies/D1_0tonkeynote.mov" rel="nofollow">http://download.blender.org/documentation/bc2007/movies/D1_0tonkeynote.mov</a></p>
<p>-Ton-</p>
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		<title>By: IamInnocent</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252364</link>
		<dc:creator>IamInnocent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 01:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened here was a reaction from the part of Bart just as we have them all the time in our comments. Maybe we are expecting more from his part that we are from ours ? LOL
Isn't it somewhat unfair ?

Reactions, IMHO, aren't very useful.
My own was different and yet all of this is secondary.

Something important is happening with Blender, something which is worth all of our attention and only very considerate comments should be uttered in the present circumstances.

Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened here was a reaction from the part of Bart just as we have them all the time in our comments. Maybe we are expecting more from his part that we are from ours ? LOL<br />
Isn&#039;t it somewhat unfair ?</p>
<p>Reactions, IMHO, aren&#039;t very useful.<br />
My own was different and yet all of this is secondary.</p>
<p>Something important is happening with Blender, something which is worth all of our attention and only very considerate comments should be uttered in the present circumstances.</p>
<p>Jean</p>
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		<title>By: okchoir</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252227</link>
		<dc:creator>okchoir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO, TON, GO!

This was a great presentation.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO, TON, GO!</p>
<p>This was a great presentation.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252206</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 23:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it is likely to provoke a storm of emotional comment I would point out the gap between what Ton does as he pleases and the community feeling of 'ownership'
In my observation Ton tends to do things in a way that doest engage the community at large especially well.
He says we will have this and that or I have been here or there.
Its not that he isnt good at what he does or accomplishes but he isnt so hot about bringing it to the community in an engaging way
He actually should make these presentations to us cos the only way we really hear now what the reasoning and plans behind these things are at Blender HQ is to see the stuff presented to Siggraph or some other group like this one some time afterward
Some while ago I seem to remember suggesting he make a monthly 5 min blender news video - it could be a Bart interview for Blendernation...
I think something like this would help the community feel a little less out of the loop.
In the end I tend to agree with Bart.
Ton could have made an excellent presentation including some details of the latest Peach movie without showing the animation clip or talking about the story just as he declined them permission pending the artists own premiere of their work.
Myself I blame extreme tiredness for temporarily dulling his ettiquette awareness...but we have been there already ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it is likely to provoke a storm of emotional comment I would point out the gap between what Ton does as he pleases and the community feeling of &#039;ownership&#039;<br />
In my observation Ton tends to do things in a way that doest engage the community at large especially well.<br />
He says we will have this and that or I have been here or there.<br />
Its not that he isnt good at what he does or accomplishes but he isnt so hot about bringing it to the community in an engaging way<br />
He actually should make these presentations to us cos the only way we really hear now what the reasoning and plans behind these things are at Blender HQ is to see the stuff presented to Siggraph or some other group like this one some time afterward<br />
Some while ago I seem to remember suggesting he make a monthly 5 min blender news video - it could be a Bart interview for Blendernation&#8230;<br />
I think something like this would help the community feel a little less out of the loop.<br />
In the end I tend to agree with Bart.<br />
Ton could have made an excellent presentation including some details of the latest Peach movie without showing the animation clip or talking about the story just as he declined them permission pending the artists own premiere of their work.<br />
Myself I blame extreme tiredness for temporarily dulling his ettiquette awareness&#8230;but we have been there already ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252182</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Durian - what's the low down on this. Has there been an official announcement?


Has anybody ever taste one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durian - what&#039;s the low down on this. Has there been an official announcement?</p>
<p>Has anybody ever taste one?<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian</a></p>
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		<title>By: carlinhos</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252135</link>
		<dc:creator>carlinhos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link! Very good presentation indeed. It seems to me that Blender now starts to get much more acceptance in the professional area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link! Very good presentation indeed. It seems to me that Blender now starts to get much more acceptance in the professional area.</p>
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		<title>By: Sago</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252116</link>
		<dc:creator>Sago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*to do


-sigh-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*to do</p>
<p>-sigh-</p>
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		<title>By: Sago</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2008/02/15/tons-berlinale-keynote-now-online/#comment-252104</link>
		<dc:creator>Sago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Ton showed in Berlin was his choice. The reason he showed it was to promote Blender, since that's his job. And promoting Blender is in all our interest. The only thing I'm disappointed about is the fact that the 30-seconds had mistakes that were unnecessary (but still better than showing storyboards/pre-viz, which is no promotion for Blender). 
How can Ton function as a spokesman for Blender if he has to show everything to the community first? Perhaps because Ton does so much for the community, the community starts to believe that Blender has to serve the community, and not the other way around.
So some people that bought the dvd are disappointed cause they didn't get to see the 30-seconds before the people at Berlinale did. You payed for Blender development and for a movie, and both will happen... alot of people are working very hard on it. How Ton promotes Blender is his business, and in now way do I feel obligated to show the community whatever he shows somewhere else. When it comes to the movie you have to deal with me, not Ton. And the only obligation I have towards the community is a moral one: to deliver a great movie, no matter how tough it is. 
For the people that want exclusive front seat, visit us in the studio. The doors are wide open, ask Bart. But for the rest, I'm busy... got better things to.

Peach out,
Sacha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Ton showed in Berlin was his choice. The reason he showed it was to promote Blender, since that&#039;s his job. And promoting Blender is in all our interest. The only thing I&#039;m disappointed about is the fact that the 30-seconds had mistakes that were unnecessary (but still better than showing storyboards/pre-viz, which is no promotion for Blender).<br />
How can Ton function as a spokesman for Blender if he has to show everything to the community first? Perhaps because Ton does so much for the community, the community starts to believe that Blender has to serve the community, and not the other way around.<br />
So some people that bought the dvd are disappointed cause they didn&#039;t get to see the 30-seconds before the people at Berlinale did. You payed for Blender development and for a movie, and both will happen&#8230; alot of people are working very hard on it. How Ton promotes Blender is his business, and in now way do I feel obligated to show the community whatever he shows somewhere else. When it comes to the movie you have to deal with me, not Ton. And the only obligation I have towards the community is a moral one: to deliver a great movie, no matter how tough it is.<br />
For the people that want exclusive front seat, visit us in the studio. The doors are wide open, ask Bart. But for the rest, I&#039;m busy&#8230; got better things to.</p>
<p>Peach out,<br />
Sacha</p>
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