Keep charging those windmills! Looks like a dragon to me! !-)

Another fine mess seems to exist. I like how BigFan has tried just about every approach to illustrate the point and has been unwavering in the face of such adversity.

I would remind all the people who are arguing that since everyone thinks BigFan is wrong, BigFan must be wrong; not so long ago a lot of really intelligent people also believed the earth was flat, and even more recently that it was the center of the universe. Majority does not make right. Have you driven on the freeways lately? Also, I'm a salaried employee who now gets overtime if I work more than 40 hours a week because so many companies would put someone on salary and then work them to death that the Government stepped in and put a stop to it.

To Sago, Ton and the rest of the Peach team: I've caught myself working long hours on a project. It was my choice and no one forced me, coerced me or applied any time constraints to me. The difference is, I'm only representing myself, not a group, institute, business or foundation. You guys are part of a group, voluntary or not, employeed or not who have come together to reach a common goal. It's up to you how you reach that goal and to provide an example to others seeking to do the same (like it or not).

Ton, you don't know me and have no reason to listen to me, but I hope that you will consider what I'm saying.
You have supplied a safe haven for these artists to come together to make this project happen. While legally (for now) you may not be under any obligation to look after the welfare of these people, morally, you are. Set a shining example. Show how a project can be completed on time, within budget and without putting your group's welfare at risk. Just because these guys will work themselves to death for something they believe in, does not mean that you should let them. Shut the power off at the main and put a lock on the panel if you have to! Are you the warden or just another inmate in that asylum?

Artistic vision can become the most addictive 'drug' there is (second only to religion). I've seen people sacrifice everything thing they have for it, some even their lives and for what? A statue? A painting? A 9 minute CG film? Let's put things in perspective, shall we? When the movie is made and everyone goes home, how will they home? Exhausted and not wanting to even look at a computer OR rejuvenated by the satisfaction of completing what they have set out to do.

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@ahee
lost your bet
please send your $ to the artists mission
they run a subsidised coffee withdrawl program for old burned out cg artists ;o)