Comments on: Smoother Diffuse Shading in Development http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/ Fresh Blender News, Every Day Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:59:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Shaw http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228413 Shaw Thu, 03 Jan 2008 02:59:30 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228413 Just a quick question: are these renders linear or gamma correct? That could have a significant impact on how the final gradient looks. Just a quick question: are these renders linear or gamma correct? That could have a significant impact on how the final gradient looks.

]]> By: DramaKing http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228298 DramaKing Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:01:24 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228298 I never really noticed that effect before. I can, however, tell the difference between the two quite easily. I never really noticed that effect before. I can, however, tell the difference between the two quite easily.

]]> By: Tynach http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228284 Tynach Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:27:33 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228284 Heh. Trouble is, I see those "bands" in real life, and, after testing the feature myself for a few minutes, always came to the conclusion that the "bands" look more realistic than the cubic softening. Sorry, but although this is OK for lighting a model, it is NOT ok for using for a final render, at least for trying to achieve photo realism. By the way, I have gripes about 3-point lighting anyways. I don't use it. In fact, I try to stay away from it. Heh. Trouble is, I see those "bands" in real life, and, after testing the feature myself for a few minutes, always came to the conclusion that the "bands" look more realistic than the cubic softening.

Sorry, but although this is OK for lighting a model, it is NOT ok for using for a final render, at least for trying to achieve photo realism.

By the way, I have gripes about 3-point lighting anyways. I don't use it. In fact, I try to stay away from it.

]]> By: CGuy http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228273 CGuy Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:44:46 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228273 Nico, physically accurate is very processor intensive. short of rendering in indigo, or some other physical based renderer, everything you make in blender is at best an approximation. this is just another approximation that looks good for somethings, without increasing rendertimes extraordinarily. not to mention, it isn't always part of the style to be photoreal. alot of stuff is cartoon, where a band is extremely distracting. Nico,
physically accurate is very processor intensive. short of rendering in indigo, or some other physical based renderer, everything you make in blender is at best an approximation. this is just another approximation that looks good for somethings, without increasing rendertimes extraordinarily. not to mention, it isn't always part of the style to be photoreal. alot of stuff is cartoon, where a band is extremely distracting.

]]> By: Lee http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228262 Lee Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:19:52 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228262 Hmm. I think well blended shading is much more physically realistic than color bands that appear from nowhere. I'd like to see this being the default, unless it's honestly worse than those bands (which I've seen many times before giving up and using yafray). Hmm. I think well blended shading is much more physically realistic than color bands that appear from nowhere. I'd like to see this being the default, unless it's honestly worse than those bands (which I've seen many times before giving up and using yafray).

]]> By: Nico http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228257 Nico Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:06:55 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228257 I'm not trying to be picky here - but the 'best result' usually derives from physical accuracy, doesn't it? The way I understand it it's not physically accurate on the 1-lamp-1-object-level but still gives a more accurate impression as in reality the light bounces are far more complex than what can be achieved with a classic 3-point-lighting (for example). Is that true? I think Tynach's question is valid. I'm not trying to be picky here - but the 'best result' usually derives from physical accuracy, doesn't it? The way I understand it it's not physically accurate on the 1-lamp-1-object-level but still gives a more accurate impression as in reality the light bounces are far more complex than what can be achieved with a classic 3-point-lighting (for example). Is that true? I think Tynach's question is valid.

]]> By: andy http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228255 andy Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:58:33 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228255 because physical accuracy doesnt always lead to the best results :) because physical accuracy doesnt always lead to the best results :)

]]> By: Tynach http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228241 Tynach Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:28:36 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228241 But if it is not physically accurate, then why is it desirable? But if it is not physically accurate, then why is it desirable?

]]> By: PapaSmurf http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228226 PapaSmurf Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:36:05 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228226 Yea! When I was making all the lighting rigs examples for the wiki, I saw that banding and spent a lot of time tinkering to try to get it removed by using different fill lights. While I was eventually successful, this option will save time. Thanks! Yea! When I was making all the lighting rigs examples for the wiki, I saw that banding and spent a lot of time tinkering to try to get it removed by using different fill lights. While I was eventually successful, this option will save time. Thanks!

]]> By: panzi http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228069 panzi Wed, 02 Jan 2008 12:52:43 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2008/01/02/smoother-diffuse-shading-in-development/#comment-228069 Compiling from SVN... :) Compiling from SVN… :)

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