Comments on: Blender Fluid Sim Used in Modo Gallery http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/ Fresh Blender News, Every Day Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:38:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Eonmach http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-165444 Eonmach Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:01:30 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-165444 No hard feelings pal, just commenting, I really like that blender is better known as a everyday tool for everyone; and you, like me enjoy this software, so keep it this way, don´t be sorry to say anything, we are on the same side man... No hard feelings pal, just commenting, I really like that blender is better known as a everyday tool for everyone; and you, like me enjoy this software, so keep it this way, don´t be sorry to say anything, we are on the same side man…

]]> By: Eric Tobiason http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-158617 Eric Tobiason Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:10:00 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-158617 Yeah... you are wrong Eonmach, sorry to say. Only for the practical reason—I put the image on their site, they thought it looked good or interesting enough to move to the gallery. They have nothing to do with blender's site. I suppose I could post it on Blender's site. But I don't see why Luxology should. CasperN, yeah, it looks a little like coke, a little like oil, a little like a lot of stuff. I used Blender's OIL preset for the viscosity, monkeyed around with some texture settings using the additive transparency (this is what Lux is showing off, the additive transparency that their renderer has), and came up with something passable and moved on. Decided to call it oil. Yeah… you are wrong Eonmach, sorry to say. Only for the practical reason—I put the image on their site, they thought it looked good or interesting enough to move to the gallery. They have nothing to do with blender's site. I suppose I could post it on Blender's site. But I don't see why Luxology should.

CasperN, yeah, it looks a little like coke, a little like oil, a little like a lot of stuff. I used Blender's OIL preset for the viscosity, monkeyed around with some texture settings using the additive transparency (this is what Lux is showing off, the additive transparency that their renderer has), and came up with something passable and moved on. Decided to call it oil.

]]> By: Eonmach http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-156591 Eonmach Mon, 17 Sep 2007 04:10:24 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-156591 Now, Well I´m no stubborn, foolish know-it-all, I respect everyones´s right to choose what application they may need to get the job done, I don´t really care for "competition" as someone stated, in fact I also use Maya, but the thing I can´t stand about an application´s web site, is getting cocky about a fluid simulation which (as far as I know) they don´t support yet, it may be misleading to potential buyers. Even if the user who did it, writes about the programs used...they (MODO makers)should put the blender´s site... Am I wrong? Now, Well I´m no stubborn, foolish know-it-all, I respect everyones´s right to choose what application they may need to get the job done, I don´t really care for "competition" as someone stated, in fact I also use Maya, but the thing I can´t stand about an application´s web site, is getting cocky about a fluid simulation which (as far as I know) they don´t support yet, it may be misleading to potential buyers. Even if the user who did it, writes about the programs used…they (MODO makers)should put the blender´s site… Am I wrong?

]]> By: CasperN http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-156328 CasperN Sun, 16 Sep 2007 18:07:45 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-156328 nice image, looks like coke :) nice image, looks like coke :)

]]> By: Eric Tobiason http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-154810 Eric Tobiason Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:25:52 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-154810 Interesting that this one was chosen... it's one of my first tests using Blender's fluid simulation, and I've done more interesting things with it since then. I really enjoy Blender, and I had a great time meeting the developers when I was in San Diego for Siggraph 2007. Interesting that this one was chosen… it's one of my first tests using Blender's fluid simulation, and I've done more interesting things with it since then. I really enjoy Blender, and I had a great time meeting the developers when I was in San Diego for Siggraph 2007.

]]> By: Jon http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-154156 Jon Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:48:44 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-154156 Thanks for the replies guys. Joe, I'm familiar with the Blender gallery and there's some awesome work there. (Shame it's not been updated lately) It just seemed that Modo's gallery images were of a consistently higher standard. But, as you implied, a lot depends on users making the best and fullest use of a programs tools. Maybe Modo simply has more professionals using it who also submit work for its gallery. Blender is the first and only 3D prog I've used. And only for a few months. It could well be that it's my skills that need improving, not Blenders features. And maybe switching to Modo wouldn't automatically improve the quality of a my final images. Horace, Blender's quad poly modelling is all I know. I still struggle with it occasionally but I have no experience of any other modelling methods. I think I had read somewhere that quad modelling was the holy grail anyway. I thought Modo was a quad modeller too. r3615, It's interesting that in repsonse to my render quality concerns all three of you mention using Yafray with Blender. I really need a one stop 3D prog for commercial work, with easy renders that "look good straight out of the box" so I can focus on my designs and reduce button tweaking and render tests to a minimum. That's why Modo was tempting me. I would be sad to say goodbye to Blender. You never forget your first. Hmmm, decisions, decisions. Thanks for the replies guys.

Joe,
I'm familiar with the Blender gallery and there's some awesome work there. (Shame it's not been updated lately) It just seemed that Modo's gallery images were of a consistently higher standard. But, as you implied, a lot depends on users making the best and fullest use of a programs tools. Maybe Modo simply has more professionals using it who also submit work for its gallery.

Blender is the first and only 3D prog I've used. And only for a few months. It could well be that it's my skills that need improving, not Blenders features. And maybe switching to Modo wouldn't automatically improve the quality of a my final images.

Horace,
Blender's quad poly modelling is all I know. I still struggle with it occasionally but I have no experience of any other modelling methods. I think I had read somewhere that quad modelling was the holy grail anyway. I thought Modo was a quad modeller too.

r3615,
It's interesting that in repsonse to my render quality concerns all three of you mention using Yafray with Blender. I really need a one stop 3D prog for commercial work, with easy renders that "look good straight out of the box" so I can focus on my designs and reduce button tweaking and render tests to a minimum. That's why Modo was tempting me.

I would be sad to say goodbye to Blender. You never forget your first.

Hmmm, decisions, decisions.

]]> By: r3615 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153932 r3615 Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:01:14 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153932 i second horace. what's the point in seeing competition everywhere. i support open source and love blender + yafray but also use modo+ zbrush. it's all about options : each app has its own strength and fits nicely in a workflow. modo301 price point is fair enough if you do any commercial work : there is no arguing when time is money and meeting client's deadlines a must. it's either done right before tomorrow... or someone else has the job. modo realtime preview + gi rendering is fast and looks good straight out of the box. no endless tweakings and re-rendering to get it right. i second horace. what's the point in seeing competition everywhere.
i support open source and love blender + yafray but also use modo+ zbrush.
it's all about options : each app has its own strength and fits nicely in a workflow.

modo301 price point is fair enough if you do any commercial work :
there is no arguing when time is money and meeting client's deadlines a must.
it's either done right before tomorrow… or someone else has the job.

modo realtime preview + gi rendering is fast and looks good straight out of the box.
no endless tweakings and re-rendering to get it right.

]]> By: horace http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153607 horace Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:43:57 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153607 i use both, blender and modo and i think they complement each other nicely, especially now that you can render animation in 301. i think you can achieve similar quality with blender and yafray but modo's renderer is extremely fast and a lot easier to use and tune. (i originally come from maya and never could get used to blender's quad based modelling. that's the main reason why i got into modo. if there already had been the fully functional bmesh maybe i wouldn't have bought modo. i think modo isn't that expensive with the special deals they sometimes have and with the current dollar/euro rate.) i use both, blender and modo and i think they complement each other nicely, especially now that you can render animation in 301.

i think you can achieve similar quality with blender and yafray but modo's renderer is extremely fast and a lot easier to use and tune.

(i originally come from maya and never could get used to blender's quad based modelling. that's the main reason why i got into modo. if there already had been the fully functional bmesh maybe i wouldn't have bought modo. i think modo isn't that expensive with the special deals they sometimes have and with the current dollar/euro rate.)

]]> By: Joe Schrand http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153580 Joe Schrand Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:53:39 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153580 Jon, It's easy to be impressed when looking at the conglomerate work of many artists. Have you looked at a blender gallery recently? http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/gallery/archive/february-2007/ I think Blender can keep up if you use it fully. Sure, that may mean taking advantage of an external (free) rendering engine from time to time (indigo or YafRay). But I didn't see anything there that makes me want to spend $900 and be locked into paying per upgrade. Jon,

It's easy to be impressed when looking at the conglomerate work of many artists. Have you looked at a blender gallery recently?

http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/gallery/archive/february-2007/

I think Blender can keep up if you use it fully. Sure, that may mean taking advantage of an external (free) rendering engine from time to time (indigo or YafRay). But I didn't see anything there that makes me want to spend $900 and be locked into paying per upgrade.

]]> By: Jon http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/11/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153569 Jon Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:07:38 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/09/10/blender-fluid-sim-used-in-modo-gallery/#comment-153569 Did I say something blasphemous? Come on Blenderheads, you gotta admit that Modo's renders look rather good. Do you think they're better than Blender's? Would it be a mistake to switch based on that reason alone? Anyone here that's used both care to comment? Did I say something blasphemous?

Come on Blenderheads, you gotta admit that Modo's renders look rather good. Do you think they're better than Blender's? Would it be a mistake to switch based on that reason alone? Anyone here that's used both care to comment?

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