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		<title>By: thomas e</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-368046</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very, very important to copy the disks to your hard drive before watching them, as otherwise you get something  "looking more like flip book animation". Copying them can be a pain, as sometimes you get a cycle error.

To be honest the production value of the video is very poor, but the anatomy teaching is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very, very important to copy the disks to your hard drive before watching them, as otherwise you get something  &#034;looking more like flip book animation&#034;. Copying them can be a pain, as sometimes you get a cycle error.</p>
<p>To be honest the production value of the video is very poor, but the anatomy teaching is good.</p>
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		<title>By: jubjubachubchub</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-270792</link>
		<dc:creator>jubjubachubchub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ordered both The structure of Man and Sketchbook.  What a disappointment. And they are $45 dollars for the structure of man, and $25 for Sketchbook. He also charges $5 dollars extra  each for shipping, but then stuffs them all into on envelope that only cost him $3 to ship.  

First of all, the quality is that of basement video with heavy compression and cheap stick on labels.  There are 5 dvds in structure of man, but the actual content ranges from a total of 400mg to just over 1 gig per disk. Basically all of the info would really fit on 2 disc.  Some of the files dont even work, and some have the video frame rate less than what is needed for viewable video, looking more like flip book animation.   I at least hoped the content would make up for the amature production, but since I cant view much of it, I will never know.  Also, dont let the DVD format fool you. They are all WMV files and there are no menu's or dvd structure to them. They wont play on most home dvd players. You need your pc and windows media player.  DVD is just the optical disk he decided to store the files on. He could have done the same thing with cds. It would just take a lot more of them.  I found that a little deceptive too. 


I've attempted to email about the problems of the non working files, but never receive a response. I also notice that places like YouTube where he shills his dvds, have comments disabled.  Im assuming that I am not alone in being disappointed. 

Over all, I paid $79 with shipping and handling, and I basically have coasters unless I can figure out how to view the rest of the videos. But constant file unrecognizable and file corrupt error messages do not leave me very encouraged.  And Yes, I have the latest updates and version for Media Player.  

I really had high hopes for both of these DVDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered both The structure of Man and Sketchbook.  What a disappointment. And they are $45 dollars for the structure of man, and $25 for Sketchbook. He also charges $5 dollars extra  each for shipping, but then stuffs them all into on envelope that only cost him $3 to ship.  </p>
<p>First of all, the quality is that of basement video with heavy compression and cheap stick on labels.  There are 5 dvds in structure of man, but the actual content ranges from a total of 400mg to just over 1 gig per disk. Basically all of the info would really fit on 2 disc.  Some of the files dont even work, and some have the video frame rate less than what is needed for viewable video, looking more like flip book animation.   I at least hoped the content would make up for the amature production, but since I cant view much of it, I will never know.  Also, dont let the DVD format fool you. They are all WMV files and there are no menu&#039;s or dvd structure to them. They wont play on most home dvd players. You need your pc and windows media player.  DVD is just the optical disk he decided to store the files on. He could have done the same thing with cds. It would just take a lot more of them.  I found that a little deceptive too. </p>
<p>I&#039;ve attempted to email about the problems of the non working files, but never receive a response. I also notice that places like YouTube where he shills his dvds, have comments disabled.  Im assuming that I am not alone in being disappointed. </p>
<p>Over all, I paid $79 with shipping and handling, and I basically have coasters unless I can figure out how to view the rest of the videos. But constant file unrecognizable and file corrupt error messages do not leave me very encouraged.  And Yes, I have the latest updates and version for Media Player.  </p>
<p>I really had high hopes for both of these DVDs.</p>
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		<title>By: digmugs</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-243007</link>
		<dc:creator>digmugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The valid quality issue mentioned by Joshua is overshadowed by Mr. Phoenix's deep understanding of anatomical structure, his insight into how he acquired it, and the ability to retrace his steps and share his personal  journey with others.  The Structure of Man is an excellent supplement to any useful anatomy text, and it prepares us to understand what we're seeing when drawing from life.  

To comment on AnyMation's post, renowned anatomy teacher Robert Beverly Hale stressed the adoption of a set of standard proportions to see how a living model differs from them.  Without this personal standard, similar to what Mr. Phoenix describes as "invention," we're only copying the model in the life class without understanding what we're actually seeing.  Real learning takes place only if it can be related to something already known and understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The valid quality issue mentioned by Joshua is overshadowed by Mr. Phoenix&#039;s deep understanding of anatomical structure, his insight into how he acquired it, and the ability to retrace his steps and share his personal  journey with others.  The Structure of Man is an excellent supplement to any useful anatomy text, and it prepares us to understand what we&#039;re seeing when drawing from life.  </p>
<p>To comment on AnyMation&#039;s post, renowned anatomy teacher Robert Beverly Hale stressed the adoption of a set of standard proportions to see how a living model differs from them.  Without this personal standard, similar to what Mr. Phoenix describes as &#034;invention,&#034; we&#039;re only copying the model in the life class without understanding what we&#039;re actually seeing.  Real learning takes place only if it can be related to something already known and understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergeant_oreo</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-214109</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergeant_oreo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only 5 lessons to go on the first disk. Boy is this a great series!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 5 lessons to go on the first disk. Boy is this a great series!</p>
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		<title>By: Femmefone.nl - Lady phone</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-188745</link>
		<dc:creator>Femmefone.nl - Lady phone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice picture! And congratulations on making your way to the digital world (and the 21st century!) You're ahead of me though, FemmeFone.nl ? The mobile fashion store, Gratis nieuwste Sony Ericsson W910i Black of Red muziektelefoon met alle mogelijkheden van een MP3 speler, Gratis Chronotech Horloge. &lt;a href="http://www.femmefone.nl" rel="nofollow"&gt; Femmefone.nl - Lady phone &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice picture! And congratulations on making your way to the digital world (and the 21st century!) You&#039;re ahead of me though, FemmeFone.nl ? The mobile fashion store, Gratis nieuwste Sony Ericsson W910i Black of Red muziektelefoon met alle mogelijkheden van een MP3 speler, Gratis Chronotech Horloge. <a href="http://www.femmefone.nl" rel="nofollow"> Femmefone.nl - Lady phone </a></p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Lehnen</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-171039</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthias Lehnen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 00:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, i think that these video lessons are really, really good. Ok, the lighting is bad and riven didn't practice his phrases before recording the vid, but still, they gave me a much better understanding of the human body. i am still a trillion times worse than him but i've made progress and thanks to these videos, i have been drawing almost every day lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i think that these video lessons are really, really good. Ok, the lighting is bad and riven didn&#039;t practice his phrases before recording the vid, but still, they gave me a much better understanding of the human body. i am still a trillion times worse than him but i&#039;ve made progress and thanks to these videos, i have been drawing almost every day lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-160471</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have watched this entire series and I have to say that the production value is so low that I almost consider it insulting to me as a paying customer. While there is substantial anatomical knowledge to be gained from these videos Riven is terrible at explaining concepts and furthermore in speaking in general. He'll too often digress into incomprehensible strains of "divide this here, then - wait divide, divide, divide, then this here, divide." He continuously loses his place, and seems unable to use clear or concise language at any point during the lectures. The misuse of English in these videos is staggering: "and now we automatically get the head" or "this is mathematically perfect" abound.

He additionally seems to be recording the videos from a pad of paper on the keyboard of his laptop (perhaps using his webcam turned downwards). The lighting is very poor and his cell phone even goes off in one point in the videos. The immense time that these videos occupy is not a testament to his wealth of knowledge but to his copious rehashing, babbling, and stammering.

If you expect people to pay for these DVDs as I unfortunately did, you need to edit, write out what you plan on saying, and proofread. Buy a decent camera and work in decent lighting. I recommend that anyone considering purchasing these dvd's to think again or at least buy a stress ball and forget as much of proper English as you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have watched this entire series and I have to say that the production value is so low that I almost consider it insulting to me as a paying customer. While there is substantial anatomical knowledge to be gained from these videos Riven is terrible at explaining concepts and furthermore in speaking in general. He&#039;ll too often digress into incomprehensible strains of &#034;divide this here, then - wait divide, divide, divide, then this here, divide.&#034; He continuously loses his place, and seems unable to use clear or concise language at any point during the lectures. The misuse of English in these videos is staggering: &#034;and now we automatically get the head&#034; or &#034;this is mathematically perfect&#034; abound.</p>
<p>He additionally seems to be recording the videos from a pad of paper on the keyboard of his laptop (perhaps using his webcam turned downwards). The lighting is very poor and his cell phone even goes off in one point in the videos. The immense time that these videos occupy is not a testament to his wealth of knowledge but to his copious rehashing, babbling, and stammering.</p>
<p>If you expect people to pay for these DVDs as I unfortunately did, you need to edit, write out what you plan on saying, and proofread. Buy a decent camera and work in decent lighting. I recommend that anyone considering purchasing these dvd&#039;s to think again or at least buy a stress ball and forget as much of proper English as you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Jman</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-124556</link>
		<dc:creator>Jman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just recently purchased these dvd's and I am a professional graphic artist/ illustrator even at $45 dollars $50 with shipping I still find this a good bargain. Compared to Gnomon and some of the others out there.

Even professionals need refresher courses and new ways of thinking which is my primary reason for purchasing. Needless to say the DVD's are no magic bullet you still have to work and I know from many years of experience:

NOTHING  beats life drawing through observation and practice, practice, practice. Riven is just giving you some fundamentals. You just need to learn when and how to use them. I will also recommend getting a good anatomy book which can easily run you about $50 to a $100 I know I have several. This will allow you to familiarize your self with the human anatomy and re-enforce some of the things that he talks about in the videos.
As mentioned by a number of people above.

I can draw rather well but I still like taking classes and learning different approaches to add to my drawing skillz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recently purchased these dvd&#039;s and I am a professional graphic artist/ illustrator even at $45 dollars $50 with shipping I still find this a good bargain. Compared to Gnomon and some of the others out there.</p>
<p>Even professionals need refresher courses and new ways of thinking which is my primary reason for purchasing. Needless to say the DVD&#039;s are no magic bullet you still have to work and I know from many years of experience:</p>
<p>NOTHING  beats life drawing through observation and practice, practice, practice. Riven is just giving you some fundamentals. You just need to learn when and how to use them. I will also recommend getting a good anatomy book which can easily run you about $50 to a $100 I know I have several. This will allow you to familiarize your self with the human anatomy and re-enforce some of the things that he talks about in the videos.<br />
As mentioned by a number of people above.</p>
<p>I can draw rather well but I still like taking classes and learning different approaches to add to my drawing skillz.</p>
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		<title>By: Irve</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-112106</link>
		<dc:creator>Irve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45$ already. Worth it, but expensive for a hobbyist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45$ already. Worth it, but expensive for a hobbyist&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
		<link>http://www.blendernation.com/2007/02/15/the-structure-of-man/#comment-80970</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ping: I didn't. Sometimes messages end up in the spam filter. I try to fish them out but sometimes I may miss a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ping: I didn&#039;t. Sometimes messages end up in the spam filter. I try to fish them out but sometimes I may miss a few.</p>
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