Comments on: Blender in Amateur Movie “Ideality” http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/ Fresh Blender News, Every Day Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:40:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Ian Hubert http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-52106 Ian Hubert Mon, 12 Feb 2007 01:11:00 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-52106 Bmud, sounds good to me. Use whatever you can find. Bmud, sounds good to me. Use whatever you can find.

]]> By: Bart http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-48403 Bart Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:16:44 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-48403 Hi Ian, that's a wicked demoreel you've got there! Bart Hi Ian,

that's a wicked demoreel you've got there!

Bart

]]> By: Bmud http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-48147 Bmud Sun, 04 Feb 2007 21:16:12 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-48147 Hiya Ian. I really like your stuff. I would love to put something into my spring film fest (it doesn't make any money). Ideality is unfortunately too long and SBFP though in 15 minute intervals is a three parter so that's too long too. I'll check out some of these earlier pieces. But either which way, would you be okay with me showing your stuff to audiences? I'll throw in any making-of, special thankyous you like, and I'll send a dvd your way after it's all done. :D Hiya Ian. I really like your stuff. I would love to put something into my spring film fest (it doesn't make any money). Ideality is unfortunately too long and SBFP though in 15 minute intervals is a three parter so that's too long too. I'll check out some of these earlier pieces. But either which way, would you be okay with me showing your stuff to audiences? I'll throw in any making-of, special thankyous you like, and I'll send a dvd your way after it's all done. :D

]]> By: Ian Hubert http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-47732 Ian Hubert Sun, 04 Feb 2007 05:29:22 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-47732 Yeah, Filipp, Ideality was really the beginning of my developing my "editing habits and theories", the most important of which is that I now treat each shot as a sentence, let it say what it has to say, then let it go. Anything less is too short, anything more than that is just gratuitous. It's worked well for me on future projects. Sweet was a sweet movie. "Ouch! Next time don’t make a movie with a bunch of teenagers talking." Haha. Noted. "To this I do refer". It's fun you pointed out that line. One thing a lot of people don't really get (it's not their fault) is that the whole dialogue thing was just kinda a fun/joke/nonsensical satirical thing. Just making up random ways of saying stuff. It certainly wasn't to impress anyone. "Would you wish to engage in lively conversation over a shared meal?" "Normally I would decline your offer-" "Offer? It was a question." TOTALLY not being serious. I think it's a fault of the movie that few people really got that/found it amusing. Actually, one of the biggest things I like about this movie is that I was able to remove the 6 minutes of pure expositional dialogue between Sword and Alexander and the movie still makes sense. me Yoda, I too enjoy the demoreel and robot more than Ideality, much of which was notably made 3 years prior. I know exactly what you mean. Although I still try to shy away from hyperbole's in my criticisms. Check out www.spacemenmovie.com Yeah, Filipp, Ideality was really the beginning of my developing my "editing habits and theories", the most important of which is that I now treat each shot as a sentence, let it say what it has to say, then let it go. Anything less is too short, anything more than that is just gratuitous. It's worked well for me on future projects.

Sweet was a sweet movie.

"Ouch! Next time don’t make a movie with a bunch of teenagers talking."

Haha. Noted.

"To this I do refer". It's fun you pointed out that line. One thing a lot of people don't really get (it's not their fault) is that the whole dialogue thing was just kinda a fun/joke/nonsensical satirical thing. Just making up random ways of saying stuff. It certainly wasn't to impress anyone. "Would you wish to engage in lively conversation over a shared meal?" "Normally I would decline your offer-" "Offer? It was a question." TOTALLY not being serious. I think it's a fault of the movie that few people really got that/found it amusing.

Actually, one of the biggest things I like about this movie is that I was able to remove the 6 minutes of pure expositional dialogue between Sword and Alexander and the movie still makes sense.

me Yoda, I too enjoy the demoreel and robot more than Ideality, much of which was notably made 3 years prior. I know exactly what you mean. Although I still try to shy away from hyperbole's in my criticisms.

Check out http://www.spacemenmovie.com

]]> By: Kidd JMadd http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-47375 Kidd JMadd Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:50:27 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-47375 I gotta give props for putting something out like this. It was a great effort required and I'm sure you picked up tons of skills along the way. Project was budget constrained, but I enjoyed it and look forward to seeing more. I'd say listen to the constructive critics (e.g. filipp) and focus on developing your artistic and technical talents. As for the non-constructive critics, remember that many artists (Bach, Vivaldi, Van Gogh...) were not well received initially but were later vindicated. How many of the all-knowing critics who condemned Stravinsky ever composed anything as beautiful and original as The Rite of Spring? The more you produce & release the better you get and the more other artists may be inspired by your work. I gotta give props for putting something out like this. It was a great effort required and I'm sure you picked up tons of skills along the way. Project was budget constrained, but I enjoyed it and look forward to seeing more.
I'd say listen to the constructive critics (e.g. filipp) and focus on developing your artistic and technical talents. As for the non-constructive critics, remember that many artists (Bach, Vivaldi, Van Gogh…) were not well received initially but were later vindicated. How many of the all-knowing critics who condemned Stravinsky ever composed anything as beautiful and original as The Rite of Spring? The more you produce & release the better you get and the more other artists may be inspired by your work.

]]> By: filipp http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-46286 filipp Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:49:04 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-46286 The "what is reality" card was first played by Aristotle in around 400 BC, so you have to be a real philosophical and literary genius to squeeze something fresh out of that one. The main character reminded me of Screech from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saved_by_the_Bell" rel="nofollow">Saved By the Bell</a>. I think the editing was mostly relevant, but maybe a tad too fast at times. For example the bridge scene in the first quarter of the show - the far angle is a beautiful shot, but if you cut to it 3 times, it loses its value. Especially in short films, long cuts really help to make the movie "seem" longer. This was also the problem with ED, IMHO - too many shots and cuts. Take for instance the short film <a href="http://www.ifilm.com/video/701874" rel="nofollow">Sweet</a>, it's only 4 minutes long, yet it feels like a "real" movie and not once are you bored. Notice how few shots there are and that some of them don't even "make sense" storywise (like the opening cityscape). They're also very long, considering the total length of the film. This isn't even cricism right now, just some ideas for the next time. A great job, especially for your first project! I'm sure we'll hear great things from Ian in the future. The "what is reality" card was first played by Aristotle in around 400 BC, so you have to be a real philosophical and literary genius to squeeze something fresh out of that one.

The main character reminded me of Screech from Saved By the Bell.

I think the editing was mostly relevant, but maybe a tad too fast at times. For example the bridge scene in the first quarter of the show - the far angle is a beautiful shot, but if you cut to it 3 times, it loses its value.

Especially in short films, long cuts really help to make the movie "seem" longer. This was also the problem with ED, IMHO - too many shots and cuts. Take for instance the short film Sweet, it's only 4 minutes long, yet it feels like a "real" movie and not once are you bored. Notice how few shots there are and that some of them don't even "make sense" storywise (like the opening cityscape). They're also very long, considering the total length of the film.

This isn't even cricism right now, just some ideas for the next time. A great job, especially for your first project! I'm sure we'll hear great things from Ian in the future.

]]> By: Bernie http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-46003 Bernie Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:41:52 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-46003 Well done! Original and interesting. Rough around the edges, yes. Lots of subtle and not so subtle visuals that show a truly artistic eye. The dialog is flat and dry, but in this this setting it works nicely. Yes, the 3D was nice as well. Keep up the great work! Well done! Original and interesting. Rough around the edges, yes. Lots of subtle and not so subtle visuals that show a truly artistic eye. The dialog is flat and dry, but in this this setting it works nicely. Yes, the 3D was nice as well.

Keep up the great work!

]]> By: Dude man http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-45830 Dude man Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:27:01 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-45830 To the maker of the movie, Don't let the criticism bring you down -- for the most part, they are honest and accurate. I get criticism ALL THE TIME, but I a) dont' let it bother me, and b) learn from them and improve. This is your first 'big' production, and good learning experience. I've had MANY projects, but no CGI. Perhaps I'll incorporate some CGI in the future, but I need a GOOD STORY, just can't think of a good story (and I mean a really interesting story - I don't want to 'regurgitate' stuff).... Anyhow, keep up the good work! Dude man To the maker of the movie,

Don't let the criticism bring you down — for the most part, they are honest and accurate. I get criticism ALL THE TIME, but I a) dont' let it bother me, and b) learn from them and improve.

This is your first 'big' production, and good learning experience. I've had MANY projects, but no CGI. Perhaps I'll incorporate some CGI in the future, but I need a GOOD STORY, just can't think of a good story (and I mean a really interesting story - I don't want to 'regurgitate' stuff)….

Anyhow, keep up the good work!

Dude man

]]> By: grafixsuz http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-45826 grafixsuz Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:22:37 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-45826 Hahaha, great work man, I must agree with everyone, well done, even if amateur. Loved it Hahaha, great work man, I must agree with everyone, well done, even if amateur. Loved it

]]> By: roofoo http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-45814 roofoo Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:06:11 +0000 http://www.blendernation.com/2007/01/30/blender-in-amateur-movie-%e2%80%9cideality%e2%80%9d/#comment-45814 That was kind of freaky when the girl said "I'm a man." Very confusing. But I think the effects were done well, I have to agree that the lines in some parts were a bit stilted, but so what? The Star Wars prequels had no better acting than this... I think bad lines will make even a professional actor look dumb. That was kind of freaky when the girl said "I'm a man." Very confusing.

But I think the effects were done well, I have to agree that the lines in some parts were a bit stilted, but so what? The Star Wars prequels had no better acting than this… I think bad lines will make even a professional actor look dumb.

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